Integrated Virtual EPG similar to PseudoTV

Didn't see anything like this in the search results so figured I would post a feature request.

 

The only reason I even go back to XBMC is specifically for PseudoTV, which is a virtual EPG system similar to your cable box.  It would be great if Plex had something like this integrated that you could use to create channels from playlists, have specific channels for genre, etc.

 

I know this would be tricky how to set whether the episode is watched or not, but figured maybe a quick setting where you could have "mark episodes/movies as watched after viewing" or something.

 

I know many would love this, and hopefully this is a possibility!

 

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PseudoTV Github: https://github.com/Jasonra/XBMC-PseudoTV

PseudoTV XBMC Forums: http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=90738

There are several requests for playlists, and the ability to have plugins be able to use playlists, with the idea of being able to make a plugin like PseudoTV.  I think this would be a great feature in plex especially if it could pull in content from channels.

Yes, this feature is a must.  Does not even have to be as fancy. 

Bumpidy bump bump

I gave this my vote for its coolness factor, don’t think that I would personally need this.

In order to do this, you need playlist functionality first.  The EPG is useless without content to show on the individual channels.  Support Playlists.

Yes but being as though Plex Home Theater is based off a fork of XBMC, it "shouldn't" be too difficult to port over to work on PHT...i'm actually working on trying to port it to the OpenElec version of PHT but still no luck yet.

Yes but being as though Plex Home Theater is based off a fork of XBMC, it "shouldn't" be too difficult to port over to work on PHT...i'm actually working on trying to port it to the OpenElec version of PHT but still no luck yet.

It is based on XBMC, but the key piece is playlist support.  Without that, the programs cannot be selected into channels for the EPG.    Plex specifically avoids implementing the playlist functionality of XBMC, so it won't happen until that or replacement functionality is implemented.

If I could have PseudoTV on Plex, I would eleminate all my Raspbmc installs and go strictly with Plex on Roku. My thought is if it doesn't have playlist support integrated within the client software, can this be something which is controled by another device? Maybe set up the channels on the server which will house the playlist(s) which will then feed the Plex device? That way all the connected client devices would be on the same "schedule" allowing people to have more of a "cable TV" experience. An added thought would be to emulate the functionality of PseudoTV Live which has integrated online streaming including a way to insert a number of "commercials" streamed off YouTube in between episodes for even more added realism.

I'm digging this back up too since we now have playlist support and this one has more votes. Any chance that this can actually happen now?

I'm digging this back up too since we now have playlist support and this one has more votes. Any chance that this can actually happen now?

In that case, reference the other thread and note that we do not have full playlist support yet.

+1

The stage is set for this to be integrated.
+1

We have playlist support thanks to this request https://forums.plex.tv/discussion/46288
But 5 years later still nothing even remotely similar to PseudoTV.

So far we currently have basic playlists: The playlist UI is so basic, the only way to create and add to playlists is via web ui and by navigating each episode/show and adding them to a playlist(can’t do them in bulk). This also means smart playlists don’t exist in which you can create playlists by metadata (age rating, origin channel, country of origin, language, etc) which is a real shame. Actually there’s are library filters by genre, content rating and network and these library filters can be added to playlists, but these don’t appear to be smart playlists that auto update as content changes, nor can be manipulated after the fact.

Once your basic playlists are created there’s no Pseudo-tv interface to view them ‘realtime’ such as an EPG (Electronic Program Guide)

So effectively the only option available, is to launch these basic playlists, watch all your manually added content in order. Or by going to the … menu and selecting Shuffle. I’m not sure how this is meant to work, but sometimes this only shuffles the order of the episodes a show and not mixing the shows together. Sometimes it mixes the shows together.

Now in terms of EPG the closest thing we have is the Up Next button, which shows the next 7 queued shows in the playlist.


There’s also a tiny little button on the top right of the Up Next Playlist that shows other playlists. So if you click that you can effectively switch between playlists as if they were channels.

problem is, these are unshuffled, so you’d need to manually go into your playlists screen shuffle each playlist a few times, then start watching one playlist, and use Up Next to look ahead in your EPG, you can’t look behind, but there is a back button, you just can’t visualise the list. Then you ‘switch channels’ by using the change playlist button, but there’s no preview of the up next for those playlists until you’ve already switched.

So the main problems current preventing us from having a PseudoTV experience on Plex are:

  1. Playlist creation is very basic, no smart playlists, nothing can be made with metadata or attributes.
  2. The closest thing we have to an EPG is an Up Next menu, and a playlist/“channel” switch button. No way to compare the Up Next of the different playlists, nor is there a way to them look realtime, nor is there a way to preview the history of the playlist by seeing what has already ‘aired’. Also the switch playlist button doesn’t exist on the Roku App, so you need to back all the way out to the playlists nd select a different playlist.
  3. Playlists support is mostly Web UI based, and those of us with Plex Home Theater or Android/Roku apps are kinda limited Construction of playlists is web only, you can’t even add shows to existing playlists from the Roku app. Plus on HT, there’s a Playlist menu item, but clicking that doesn’t do anything for me. Trying to shuffle all the Playlists is impossible. Now to me this is actually a very minor issue, because if smart playlists existed you could construct all the playlists in advance and not really need to edit them in any way from the playback device.

So in my mind there’s only these 3 areas that are lacking for us to get a decent PseudoTV experience. I put them in order of construction, but it also works well as an order of priority. An EPG would be great, but having smart playlists would bring us much closer to a decent pseudotv experience as we’d be able to better simulate channels.

Hopefully not beating a dead horse … +1! Has this been looked at any further??

+1!
Would love something like this.

Really miss this from XBMC/Kodi and would love to see it supported in Plex. I think it’d be farily simple;

  1. create a few lists of tv shows by genre (Comedy, Drama, SciFi)
  2. shuffle each list
  3. save the start time (when Channel is started) to track how long the channels have been playing
  4. “switch” between genres with a button, which would…
  5. change genre playing and “skip” forward in the media list to the [current time - start time]

I’m obviously oversimplifying the process, and I’m unsure how the genre switch button would work, but I don’t think it’s that difficult. The benefit of this method is each genre playlist would be generated fresh when the channel is started. This prevents the genre shuffles from being the same every time and would only have one stream playing at a time.

Thoughts? Programmers? :slight_smile:

+1 would love this!

Really want this feature as well. Even if it’s a PlexPass only feature I wouldn’t skip a beat about paying a membership for it.

Early 2021 clean-up: duplicate (pseudo tv)