Let me explain the “use case” for buffer settings - I can not play 4K video through the new app because it stutters every 1 second, whenever the HDD reads the next chunk of data. The fix is to increase the buffer size, which is what helped in PMP. Now that the option is not there, the app doesn’t function as expected.
Is that a valid “use case”… or maybe it’s some basic functionality?
This is just insulting. It’s like saying “we’ll only listen to you if your argument is in line with most other people”. Can you not think for yourself, analyze the benefits of a certain setting or feature and make a decision based on whether it’s objectively useful or not?
By this logic, if most people start using Plex just to stream music, will you remove video playback altogether and then ask what’s the use case behind it? Sounds ridiculous? Yes! So does removing settings like buffer size to make the playback smooth if it stutters.
If you are, what other alternative software do you recommend, now that the people at Plex decided to ditch it? No, wait… you made that decision… but you’re the original HT… I’m confused…
coming from Plex ppl … this is astonishing … as other mentioned it, how can you develop product if you dont understand your user need
simle googling will tell you why … but since Plex are too busy ppl, i try to quickly fill in
contents are produce at different frame rate (thats how many frames are displayed per second) … movies are at 23.97fps … most TV stuff is at 50fps or 60fps
when you run your PC … screen is set to some refresh rate … often 60fps so you see your mouse cursor running smooth across the screen
watching 23.97fps or 50fps content on screen that is set to 60fps … requires you to fit content frames into refresh frames of screen (so each frames are shown multiple times) … as you might notice, its not exact multiple … so some frames are not repeated same number of times as others … this introduces stuttering (obvious on scense that pan across) … hence ppl who cares about this, switch screen to match content refresh rate
its the same reason audiophiles will not use AppleTV to do critical listening of their CD rips … as AppeTV outputs at 48kHz while CD rips are at 44.1kHz … but Plex probably would not care about that too
Seriously? Without switching the display mode my TV doesn’t go into the proper mode for video and looks like trash comparatively. In PC mode all the TV built in processing is disabled.
Just wow Plex…
That’s great for you. No streaming box works in my setup as it cannot do what a PC can do.
How much is nvidia paying you?
Then why are you treating the rest of us like dirt?
Eeek, I asked folks for input and get responded to as if I’m an idiot. I asked for use cases to understand if they’re related to being plugged into a TV or connected to a PC monitor or laptop.
I freaking understand refresh rates and how there are usecases to support it. Goodness. I’m unclear if these situations are common when sitting at your desk or watching on a laptop. TV connected devices? Sure, you definitely want it there.
We’re not adversaries, why treat me like I am? Shaking my head.
I’m sorry if people are treating you that way. Just understand it comes from a place of frustration, not hate. Plex is taking steps backwards and the fans hate to see it deteriorate. The TV UI being killed off is something no one wants to see.
Back on point, Gsync and freesync are both technologies on PC that allow the playback of media at the media’s native refresh rate. I’m assuming these won’t be engaged by default without the app supporting them correctly. Just because I watch on a PC doesn’t mean I don’t want to play back media at its native refresh rate.
I’ve been using PMP on my MacBook Pro connected to my TV through a HDMI cable for years. I’ve been loving the automatic refresh rate switching for playback of movies and tv shows as it makes the playback much smoother. I was watching a movie last week when refresh rate stayed on 60 Hz for some reason and it was totally unwatchable, a suttering mess throughout. Only watched like 30 seconds before I restarted PMP and the refresh rate worked again.
If the automatic refresh rate isn’t brought back I might as well play stuff in VLC instead and switch refresh rate manually in System Preferences.
And the lack of keyboard navigation is seriously annoying. Much easier to use the arrow keys and enter to navigate the app than using a mouse (or the trackpad on the MacBook Pro in my case).
If you did understand frame rate switching and “how there are usecases to support it”, you would not be saying "maybe if you explain your use case for rate switching … we can understand if there’s a case for a large majority of users. "
And if you did truly understood usecase … you would have also understood that stuttering of video due to source fps not matching display fps (in exact multiple) is irrespective of what display technology is used, ie whether PC is “being plugged into a TV or connected to a PC monitor or laptop”.
Ppl treat you as “idiot” because you treat them like idiots too … asking them why they need frame rate switching, when you already know why (apparently)
Ppl treat you as “adversaries” because you discriminate them … they are not “large majority of users”
And instead of “shaking my head” and getting yourself even deeper … just be honest and keep being honest … and keep telling people that Plex will not support HTPC anymore (if that is truly what Plex is pursuing) instead if insulting their intelligence
