Killing PMP

  1. I use miniPCs (Windows 10) as my clients.
  2. I believe a Windows PC is the only client that can play my audio files directly at 192kHz 24bit to my AVR (I have lots of hi res audio files).
  3. I believe a Windows PC is the only client right now that can “Direct play” 4K onto a 1080p display (it takes the 4K stream direct from the server and does the “transcoding” on the client side because it’s powerful enough to do that) and do HDR->SDR tone mapping properly, client-side. I rely on this feature.

Plex, given the above, please consider keeping Windows as a viable and supported client for your GUI going forward. Now and forever.

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The things I needed Plex Media Player for where the that is was able to change to refresh rate and it could pass through audio, if the new desktop app did this I would be fine but I don’t think it does so how is this any kind of improvement?

What other choices do we all have if one wishes to stay with the Plex ecosystem and use a HTPC? Again, I am still running the last version of embedded PMP v1.3.12 and it has been working without a reboot of my NUC for almost two years. Truly the best Plex appliance in my opinion.

PMPv2.39 will progress forward to PMPv2.x and I will continue to advocate that bugs be fixed before the EOL date is reached in Jan 2020. In regards to running deprecated software, I will cross the non-functional bridge when that time comes. For now the solution for me is to simply revlock.

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The latest embedded PMP doesn’t work with recent Intel hardware still (like Kaby Lake, Apollo Lake, etc), correct?

Yes, like I said, it’ll work until one day you sit down to watch a movie and it simply doesn’t. You can avoid that by running an old version of PMS also, and not updating your OS. That’ll work forever, or at least until a new major format comes out that succeeds h264/h265.

I think that is probably OK, as long as you don’t expose your PMS to the internet.

I didn’t see running an old PMS mentioned to be honest.

In my scenario, I am using embedded PMP because its far superior to using Windows for PMP. I worked hand in hand with vlang and longchair to address as many issues as possible with them before they departed Plex. Embedded PMP is running on top of a cutdown version of LibreELEC 8.2 which is a JEOS. There is not much reason to update the underlying Linux OS in my environment. Its as reliable as my STB DVD/BD player. Runs around the clock just like the fridge without a hiccup.

FWIW you can add my vote to the “don’t kill TV mode please” crowd.

And while I do appreciate that the Plex people probably looked at metrics before killing it, I’m going to argue the following:

  1. A lot of people probably weren’t using it because they didn’t know it actually existed. On a purely anecdotal level, several times I had to point it out to people who were confused about how to make their remote work with PMP, or were confused about the UI not matching mine, or upset that it looked tiny on their big screen.

  2. Looking at the new Plex app, I really don’t see the point: it looks like a slightly modified version of Plex Web, hosted in a dedicated window. Why do we need this, since we already have, well, Plex Web? Wouldn’t it make more sense to release an app that’s only a client with the UNO UI, so that it matches the UX on Roku/iOS/etc.? It feels like this will be the odd player app that doesn’t look like any of the other ones.

(also, it looks bad on my TV/HTPC, everything is tiny)

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My son lives in a dorm and doesn’t have a tv,/media player and we share our content with him so he can play it on his Mac. So what now?

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I would suggest buying him a FireTV stick and plugging it into his monitor.

Correct but since there is barely any development of mpv on the backend for true HDR passthrough its a moot poot to use those newer CPUs.

So that Amazon can monitor and monetize his media watching? :-[

When a “device” is that cheap, you are the product.

Ditto to anyone suggesting the Mi/Xiaomi box because it’s so cheap. No way anyone should be connecting that device to their networks…

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All the other options are Google, Roku, or Apple. Pick your poison, basically. It’s going to be a commercial entity with tracking one way or the other.

Honestly I don’t do any HDR right now so they’d otherwise would great for me. But the update is appreciated.

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I didn’t mention revlocking PMS. I would not doubt at some point Plex may not allow deprecated clients to connect to some future PMS version. I will deal with the loss of PMP then when I have to cross that bridge.

Which is yet another argument in favor of a full HTPC! :smile:

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I doubt they would purposefully break compatibility, but they’ll want to add new features to the API at some point and that will be the result.

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Wow this is absolutely insane. A slap in the face for users that have been here for awhile. I need TV mode! I need lossless non-transcoded audio, specifically Dolby Atmos and true HD. The LG web os app is a joke! I do not want to buy a ■■■■■■■ Shield. I use my gaming Pc with PMP as that’s by far the best, most fluid, most responsive, most codex-compatible. And, you know, I can do Steam games and a million other things, in one box. But now I have to buy and run another box. That’s not good for the environment, geniuses! Al Gore will NOT approve :thinking:

But, I’m sure support for augmented reality cookbooks or whatever the F will continue. Plex is losing its way. It’s sad.

Between this and the fact that live TV DVR hasn’t worked in OVER A YEAR… plex is an absolute joke now.

You’re saying “F you” to your loyal, longtime users. And rubbing it in our faces with that insufferably condescending, self-justifying blog post. “HTPCs aren’t that good any way blah blah blah…” Right, so Plex knows better than me what is my best setup. Got it. Welp, F you too, Plex :blush:

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I think Achilles point being…that may be next week… or around 2025.

Yes, you never know when the sword will fall.