Yes, it had a use here until very recently - and speaking of subs:
I’m all for visual enhancements, but this goes a bit over the top. PMP and Windowy New Plex suffer from the same illness.
(UTF-8 subs, fresh off Subtitle Edit, the same way they’ve been coming off for… years…)
At my house Plex has effectively made PMP/Windowy New Plex a thing I’m not all that interested in keeping around -so I guess for Plex it’s: Mission Accomplished (George Bush)
Can somebody please just sum up what’s going on here? Maybe I’m just not understanding, but it seems half of people seem to think I won’t be impacted at all, and half think it’s the end of the world for me and users like me.
I run a Plex Media Server on my PC. My TV IS my monitor. I double click the system tray icon, loads the local host web-version of some kind of plex player, and I watch plex. Some of my friends and family watch it on whatever devices, too.
So what exactly IS changing? Can I not watch my own plex on my own PC any more? If not, what the hell is the thinking here?
PMP will stop receiving development in Jan of 2020. Plex For Windows is it’s replacement. If, after Jan 2020, at some point, when PMP stops working Plex For Windows just isn’t doing it for you - you’re screwed.
You got some time.
The general thinking is that you take a look at Plex For Windows. That’s your new boy - eventually. Base what’s left of the rest of your life on that and see what you can come up with.
Yes I know @BigWheel - And I did mention that I was aware of this further up in THIS post…
However in my post on THAT thread, I did specifically ask…
To which you gave AN answer.
So perhaps I’ll ask it again… Are there any plans to implement audio Passthrough?
And just make sure you all place your vote here. Keep them numbers growing…
Lunch done, back to work…
Plex has made it easier and easier to justify NOT buying PlexPass over the years. By losing PMP, we will lose keyboard and mouse functionality, which is how I navigate my media. Anyone using Plex is going to be fairly computer literate or even (like myself) an all out geek. Taking away functionality that computer people are used to is a bad move, it shows the the devs have lost touch with their user base. I was prepped to purchase PlexPass a few years ago and continuous playback was removed and NEVER re-implemented. What an ignorant feature to remove. I am currently testing EMBY, does anyone have any other suggestions?
I jump to JRiver when Plex dump kodi based player in favor of PMP (and I have lifetime Plex Pass … wrong move on my part as I became customer who will never pay again … so my opinion won’t matter)
Learning curve for JRiver is steep … but you are geek like me … surely nothing is beyond us lol (they have one week free trial … and questions on their support forum get answered and addressed by developers … that include author of LAV filter)
Their only shortcoming at the moment is ASS subtitles rendering which is getting address now
JRiver is the only media organizer that still retains MadVR baked in (kodi and emby dump madVR sometime ago) … I know mpc hc and be have madVR, but those are players not organizers … if you serious about video quality … on HTPC MadVR is best
It has best imo tag management that allows you to add custom tags for organizing your media
And their audio engine is audiophile quality that support DSD and cue sheets.
Unfortunately, your “nervous system” is infected with greed and ignorance, and serves no purpose without a good ecosystem of players. Since all the player clients get steadily worse, and you just killed off HTPC/Pi players, you can consider your “nervous system” to be in it’s final death tremors. Because everything useful and wonderful about Plex is dead or dying.
I don’t know what “network buffering” is referring to here, but there’s no reason why Gigabit Ethernet on Apple TV 4K or SHIELD should result in untoward buffering.
It may surprise you to learn this, but most people don’t have their homes fully wired for Cat 6. Most people are only using wifi in their homes (and many aren’t even on 802.11ac yet). So, they won’t be using that 1gb interface you mention and instead will be streaming over wifi to a device likely at the furthest extent of their coverage (router being in the “home office” and TV being in the living room). And the bandwidth doubles if the PMS is also on wifi. And further still, that stream also has to compete with the kids Twitch stream of League of Legends and everything else happening in the house.
None of this was an issue for me before because my HTPC was my PMP and PMS and it was all neatly tucked behind the TV and didn’t require any wifi bandwidth at all to play via HDMI at original full video and audio quality. Now I have to go to the wifi router and back again to jump two feet to the TV (and lose quality in the process).
@elan can’t you just open source PMP?
PMP on a NUC is the only solution I found for playing TrueHD / DTS-HD MA.
This is an excellent idea. If PMP is to abandoned, then just release it to the open source community. We’ll keep it current ourselves.
PMP is already partially open source. This includes the Qt and player integration. The UI is bundled separately and is minified javascript.
I wasn’t answering your specific question. Else I would have quoted your question.
I was making a general statement to the group in that other thread.
PMP is already partially open source. This includes the Qt and player integration. The UI is bundled separately and is minified javascript.
Yes, I know. I build it myself from source under Linux. But as you said, the UI is not open source and it’s the TV Layout UI that seems to be the crux of the issue. If Plex is dumping TV Layout officially then why not open source it too so the community can keep their 10’ interface?
Because it’s common to the other players with a TV layout AFAIK, the UNO thing. I guess they want to protect their IP.
Then that begs the other question. If the TV Layout codebase is living on in other streaming apps then why not just continue to bake it into the desktop player (or release it as a separate app for Windows/Mac/Linux)?
On mine it doesn’t work either…
I think all of us have exactly the same question. It’s probably down to something else they don’t want to tell us. My guess is an acquisition.
What I don’t get, why didn’t they just bring the new “UNO Desktop” view from the new Plex app and just make it the new Desktop UI for PMP. I don’t see the point in reinventing the wheel and launching a new app that strips down all the features, even basic ones.
One thing besides the technical side of things that I feel like nobody really brought up, is how much better the User Experience is on PMP. Just navigating through the dashboard is so smooth and snappy, the simple screen animations are like butter. Scrubbing files is a breeze, movies start up instantly.
I don’t have a shield or apple tv, but I can say for damn sure all the other devices I used never came close to being so smooth. Some people don’t care too much about this stuff and happy it works, but It always bothered me how clunky plex felt on my xbox one despite having the same UI. or how the roku and samsung UI wasn’t updated for half a decade.
