Killing PMP

That’s not changing, well this week, the local web will still be there and operate as it currently does.

Whats changing is that PMP is being discontinued next year.
Mind you as I can no longer fling content to PMP and Alexa cant control it any more I dont think I am going to miss it.
Amazingly the plex skill can control Kodi plex plugin fine, and flinging works too…wonder how long that will continue!

you won’t need to increase broadband speed. Broadband speed is only for your incoming/outgoing internet traffic. As long as you have a gigabit modem and using ethernet cable instead of wifi you are good.

besides that, if you don’t have a hdr screen then there is no reason you really need to stop using your current setup right now and move to a shield. PMP will probably work for a very long time even after the support ends, just don’t expect any new improvements if they unleash a cool new features.

Or addicted to drama :wink:

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or as has happened before, they push out updates to PMS which kills PMP.

Ending support in the IT world almost always leads to end of life or at least a crippled offering.

Oh and we have two Shields in our house and a couple of ATV’s (3’s and 4’s) plus Roku’s and some homebuilt units.

However, the HTPC was, is and always will be the powerhouse that gets the most use. It does everything, all in one. The Shield is woeful by comparison.

The Shields are OK but they suffer with issues that are outside my control, unlike our HTPC. They are also very restrictive in what they can do.

People are raising good points that their HTPC’s are serving content to friends and family. We use PMS to server out home videos and images etc.

PMP is acceptable as a player and a unified experience. Our friends and family found it great. I’m migrating everyone back to Kodi.

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@elan

I’m a plex pass lifetime subscriber who always believed in your vision. Now i believe you’re getting disconected from your core user group.

You might believe the added value of plex is “Enabling effortless playback of your personal media library whereever you are .”
I get it, the world changes, nowadays a streaming devices or tv app will do this job.

However, your paying customers aren’t mainstream users. Who do you think stores media video and music files locally in the age of streaming services. Mainstream people use Netflix, Spotify,  Music etc to consume media. Anticipating on this trend, where does this leaves plex in 3-5 years?

Your subscribers aren’t mainstream. The main reason we started to use plex is because we only want the best media playing experience whereever we are.
We like hue sync entertainment, the best available audio/video quality, full customisation of menu’s and views, interaction with smart devices for automation, one media dashboard for all your media including streaming services, social media integration. Just look at the feature requests.

There are many media players, with some innovative effort in Unique features Plex can keep it’s spot the upcoming years, but mainstream only, you won’t stand a chance.

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Same. My family and I are still using 1.3 on our HTPC which also hosts our PMS. We’ll keep using it for as long as it works. By the time it no longer works with whatever version PMS is up to then, I hope either Plex has come out with an actual proper replacement for PMP that does everything or an alternative arises to take its place. Not having native HD audio passthrough to my 9.2 HT system without having to buy yet another device is a deal breaker.

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Just don’t get it…gutted as it’s perfect for everyone in the house…built my home cinema (4k projector, 5.1.2 atmos set up) etc to maximise my movie collection in the belief that Plex would develop PMP as its flagship product.

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Updates are turned off for the server and PMP, In fact, running a previous version of PMP to not deal with UNO. I don’t need fancy stuff, just need to stream my content wherever I am.

Still got the old UI Plex web for maintenance tasks.

Until they get their senses back!

I’m not sure if you’re getting at something specific I’m missing, but this should Just Work, I do it all the time. The new player is pretty awesome.

This made me so mad I went to Emby and I am glad I did. The htpc app works way better.

Hey @elan, how many users for the Lenovo VR headset nobody ever heard about?

There are many words I could use to describe the new player:


“Awesome” isn’t one of them.

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To be fair I’m pretty sure @elan was referring specifically to the Apple TV app.
That issue definitely doesn’t appear there.

To balance it up though I still think the abandonment of PMP reflects badly on Plex, despite the fact I no longer use it.

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Noted.

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Totally fair point. I think with most OS’es you could set up a private Ethernet network between the HTPC and the streaming device to work around that specific issue, if WiFi isn’t cutting it. (And I totally get that it’s additional work)

I’m not saying the SHIELD is a 100% replacement for an HTPC by any means. I’m strictly talking about media playback.

The cost of having an Apple TV on 24/7 for a year is about $2.25; streaming devices are incredibly energy efficient.

I’m not entirely sure how this relates to streaming devices.

A huge part of the reason why people have HTPCs is that they can do a lot of things - thing streaming sticks cannot and will never do. Plex has supported HTPCs for as long as I can remember, in one form or another. People have built systems - systems that are not often upgraded - around the assumption Plex would be available on these devices.

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I agree! Mainstream media consumers just use Netflix and Spotify. But what I’m pushing back on is the notion that anyone who doesn’t use an HTPC is somehow thrown out of the “cool kid’s club” and their voice doesn’t matter and somehow they’re less important users and the only Real Plex User is an HTPC user.

I’ve been on this journey since the very beginning, and have had probably 3-4 different Mac Minis, an Intel NUC, and a Raspberry Pi or 3 hooked up to a TV. I care about formats and Direct Play, and HDR and 4K and gapless audio and webhooks and lights which turn on and off automatically with movies and all that. And for me personally, streaming devices have crossed the threshold of respectability and offer great stability, media compatibility, energy efficiency, and usability. Do they work for everyone in every scenario? Absolutely not!

Let’s have a healthy (polite!) level-headed discussion as lovers of media, out of the mainstream with more shared values than not.

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When the conversation of user trust enter into this, elan? How we can we trust that this new Windows app is going to be there a year from now? How we can trust any feature is still going to be there a year from now? Plugins, PMP - what next? What feature that I use every day will soon get a cheeky blog post about how it’s going to be gone next week?

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