Looking to the Plex Hardware Guru’s for advice…

I’ll try to be brief (as many of you know I can get a bit… well… wordy).
I’ve purchased the Chassis of my dreams:

And I will be moving many of my existing components into this new case.
Power Supply, Intel Motherboard, i5 2500k Processor, Graphics, BD-ROM, etc.
Windows 7 Professional O/S with upgrade to Windows 10 shortly.

I will also be moving at least 8 hard drives (mostly Seagate 1.5TB, & 3TB, as well as a few WD 3TB) into the new individual drive trays.

Since these were previously housed in two external USB 3.0 enclosures, I now need to move them to internal SATA connections. The motherboard only has three SATA2 and two SATA3 connectors, so I assume I need to add a controller card (for the record my boot drive will be 512GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD on the first of the motherboard’s SATA3 ports).

My intent is to continue with my JBOD configuration, and use the spare bays for possible mirroring of the first drives, or just placing some drives in to dupe the JBOD’s onto and then store off-site as well. I do not see creating some huge single image RAID array at this point, but I would not rule out its possibility in the future. JBOD just works too well for me right now.

I am reading that none of my existing HDD’s will even begin to need SATA3, as they don’t even have the ability to saturate SATA2. Which makes me wonder if I even need to consider SATA3 at this point.

Finally the question… Suggestions for SATA Controller capable of 16 JBOD drives?

What’s your motherboard spec?

@random.server said:
What’s your motherboard spec?

This one.
Although from a different (local) source.

Also… 8GB RAM, with another 8GB standing by… just can’t install until I remove my CPU fan/cooler.
The slots are under there, so when I transfer the motherboard, I’ll pop off the cooler and install the other two, then reinstall the cooler.

So one thing that may cause a problem with this is the MB only has 1 PCI-e Slot that has more then 1 lane. Is there anything in that slot? If not that is the best place took hook up your disk controller. You will need something like the Adaptec 71605H. I am sure LSI, Highpoint, Promise teck all have similar products. Compare prices and really be sure that a raid controller won’t be as good. I looked up the adaptec card though and it is $390 right now. That isn’t bad when you consider the number of sata connections and I really don’t think you could find a decent raid card anywhere near that.

I wouldn’t worry about the Sata vs. SAS or Sata 2 vs Sata3 thing. SAS is fully compatible with SATA so any SAS controller will work. Sata 2 vs Sata 3 is mostly for SSD’s so your boot drive could possibly benefit from that migration. As your traditional spinning disk get bigger though they will eventually benefit from the Sata 3 Some of the newer ones are getting close that now.

In your case layout you have two spots labeled for vents. One thing I would caution you about is to think of ways to force air over the drives. I closed all of the basic vents so I could drive all airflow through my Hard drive mobile rack back planes. With the quantity of drives you are talking about you want to be sure you keep it all cool and maintain good airflow through the drives. Did you consider mobile racks like the ones i have from super micro. You can actually control the fan in the mobile rack with your cooling controlls

@mavrrick said:
So one thing that may cause a problem with this is the MB only has 1 PCI-e Slot that has more then 1 lane. Is there anything in that slot? If not that is the best place took hook up your disk controller. You will need something like the Adaptec 71605H. I am sure LSI, Highpoint, Promise teck all have similar products. Compare prices and really be sure that a raid controller won’t be as good. I looked up the adaptec card though and it is $390 right now. That isn’t bad when you consider the number of sata connections and I really don’t think you could find a decent raid card anywhere near that.

I believe that slot is where my Graphics Card is installed. I was thinking the same thing about PCI issues, but I really don’t have the budget for a new motherboard right now, but I do want to make the swap from chassis to chassis and get things up and running. Having said that… if there were a motherboard that supported all the SATA drives directly that I intend to install, and I could wrap the cost of a disk controller back into the motherboard… I could go that way… No? (Not sure if such a beast exists).

I wouldn’t worry about the Sata vs. SAS or Sata 2 vs Sata3 thing. SAS is fully compatible with SATA so any SAS controller will work. Sata 2 vs Sata 3 is mostly for SSD’s so your boot drive could possibly benefit from that migration. As your traditional spinning disk get bigger though they will eventually benefit from the Sata 3 Some of the newer ones are getting close that now.

You have confirmed my feelings about the SATA2 and SATA3 issues, so I may just pick up a used SATA2 controller here on Craigslist (I live in the heart of Silicon Valley, so this kind of stuff can be found on grocery store shelves). There are so many companies that upgrade their hardware so often, we have several great surplus shops to peruse. Often a card and cables can be picked up for less than the new cables alone would cost at a retailer. My existing SSD can be connected to one of the SATA3 ports on the motherboard, as it is already.

In your case layout you have two spots labeled for vents. One thing I would caution you about is to think of ways to force air over the drives. I closed all of the basic vents so I could drive all airflow through my Hard drive mobile rack back planes. With the quantity of drives you are talking about you want to be sure you keep it all cool and maintain good airflow through the drives. Did you consider mobile racks like the ones i have from super micro. You can actually control the fan in the mobile rack with your cooling controlls

The “Vents” could just as easily be labeled “Blanks” its just that the blank bay fills are already vented (with filters). I’m leaving two bays at the top with the thoughts that someday I’d like to dabble with liquid cooling, and I’ve seen some dual bay reservoirs that appeal to me.

This chassis has an incredible amount of fan/radiator space, and I intend to use some very quiet higher end fans to circulate air appropriately. With respect to the drive bays, one of the reasons I chose the individual ones that I did was because of the distance that the drives will be now be separated, allowing for better air-flow than the tight quartered External Enclosure that I currently use, where heat just transfers up from one drive to the next, etc… There is substantial airflow through the front of these trays as well, even without other 5-1/4" vents nearby. Additionally these individual drive trays are about 90% aluminum in construction and should help dissipate heat better as a result. Each bay also has support for an optional 40mm fan to be installed at the rear. This approach is great because if I have a specific drive or two (like the two Seagates that I just replaced with WD’s) that run a little hotter than the others, I could just install an additional fan on that particular bay and draw extra heat off.

Thanx so much for your input. I sincerely appreciate it.
I’ll follow your links and learn some more.

I was worried you might have a video card it that slot. Do you need it. I have a Core i5 2500 and just use the integrated card. Plex doesn’t use the GPU for anything so i figured that would be sufficient.

There are some motherboards that support up to 10 sata connections, That is as high as I have seen, and then those boards would cost almost the same amount as the HBA i linked above.

I am thinking you may need a MB and Controller though. If that is the case make sure the MB has multiple PCIe slots with more than are more then 1x. I have a Intel DZ77bh-55k Motherboard for that reason. It has 2 16x slots.

I am glad to hear those enclosures allow for a fan. That is certainly better then just letting convection do it’s thing. I do hear what you are saying but this will impact your data integrity. Just keep an eye on it. Actually do a test. You current have enough connections for 4 internal drives now using your motherboards controller right. Use those enclosures and empty one your USB3.0 enclosures to it. Monitor temperature of the drives while it is running. Maybe even get a scanning software and create some excessive work on the drives. See how cool they stay. I am actually interested in how it performs.

If you are concerned at all about noise you may want to think about the impact of adding 5 40mm fans to those enclosures, They will run between 3500 and 5000 RMP’s which means a fairly substantial higher pitched hum. The enclosure i am talking about is cooled by a 92mm fan that i have set to run around 700 RPM’s and stays fairly quite.

Understood. The reason for the current graphics card is that I run a 27" monitor and at the same time my Projector from the second port. I’m sure the on-board graphics can do one or the other, but not both.

I’m going to do some shopping for a 16 Port HBA card that just handles JBOD. Many of the used cards I come up with do not support drives larger than 2.x TB, and I’m already running 3TB drives in my externals.

Got your PM, so let me just stick that option in my hat for now. I do wish that the Plex Forums had a Hardware area for this kind of thing.

Thanx.

If the problem is you need 2 video card outputs you could us a USB VGA/DVI/HDMI adapter and then the integrated to free up the slot. But that is somewhat dependent on what the requirements are for each of those connections.

I had one of those at my work… ditched it for a second video card… too many problems with it.

Just a Server update… since I link to this thread in my Signature.
The Server is on its own wheels, sitting inside a desk that is on its own wheels… so it might look kinda weird: