This is ridiculous. I use colocation at hetzner with 3 own racks running my own cloud. Of course my ipranges are assigned to me by hetzner.
I doubt this is legal
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if you want to do legal actions, i would help you.
hope other join in.
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Great, thank you so much for reaching out to me with this pleasant e-mail. Life got way too boring on my end the past couple of months anyway. Thanks for suggesting to migrate my server to another machine in the next 4 weeks. Of course I have time for that now, why didnāt I think of it myself, itās so clear nowā¦
Of course this doesnāt impact me at all, no need to worry, because thereās plex and only plex on my dedicated server at hetzner, donāt think you can install something else anyway on such a machine, right?
Additional cost to spin up another machine at home? I donāt care - you know I have a moneytree on the balcony (yeah, I have a balcony)ā¦
In Germany itās called āSippenhaftungāā¦
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honkšŖæ
Same here. Started monthly paying Feb 2018, will end Oct. 2023.
Was a good time, thank you Plex.
Started to install and configure Emby to see what its worth.
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I guess Iām moving to Jellyfin, which would be the easy way out. Iām not going to migrate my server to another hoster, even though my content isnāt physically on the server Plex runs on, so I could (relatively easy) do so.
The issue is that I cannot host it at home. My upstream bandwidth is less than it takes for 2 concurrent HD streams, let alone 4K. Besides that, Iām moving country in October, so it would mean downtime right when I need it the most for my entertainment.
So Plex, thanks for the fish, but this is it for me.
(My private Plex server has been hosted at Hetzner for the last 6 years or so, and I like Hetzner, so Iām not going to turn to another provider just because Plex doesnāt like Hetzner. I like Plex, but I can also like Jellyfin or Emby).
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I donāt even get what are those āviolationsā occurring with Hetznerās IP range. Anyone has any hints? How would they even know, for instance, what content is being shared by peopleās own dedicated servers? How do they manage the TOS?
And yes, the decision to block the entire range is totally insane.
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They do indeed seem to be this stupid.
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Edit:
These practices clearly violate European competition law.
I will have this checked and file a complaint.
Plex is making it far too easy for itself.
The problem is that not only Hetzner customers are affected, but also customers who buy their service from a reseller.
There are many companies that use Hetznerās hardware.
This is comparable to a block of Vodafone or Telekom in Germany.
That is simply illegal and violates net neutrality!
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Typical Plex incā¦ They havenāt listened to server admins about anything really, just pleasing Hollywood Greed Corp. Many of us host elsewhere to not having to fiddle with wonky hardware, through VPN and/or bad upload speed at home. This is not what I paid for. Will join lawsuit, gimme details.
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I use Plex for almost 15 years now, I payed for lifetime and in return I get screwed over.
- Hetzner is one of the largest hosting providers in Germany. The copyright laws here are sometimes even stricter than in the USA. Hetzner would never ignore copyright inquiries, etc. Why is the easy way being taken here? It seems itās intended to get rid of most users. Also this action being taken is not legal in Germany or the EU.
- This secrecy about how Plex even comes to the conclusion that so many users would do illegal things comes from the fact that Plex definitely accesses data they are not allowed to access.
- We were all sold software here that no longer exists in this form.
I have already spoken with my lawyer (who, by the way, is one of the 2 other people who have access to my Plex) and we will take action against it. Really a shame how a company forgets its roots and sells off itās loyal user base.
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I just rolled out of bed and bam, thereās that email! I slammed the brakes on my personal business and dove into action 
. Thankfully, with my nearly two decades of Linux wizardry, I cracked the code in a jiffy.
Iām locked and loaded, Plex. Are you ready to rumble? Iāll throw the towel if you nuclear all the IPs, but can you?
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nice!
I would join when it becomes concrete
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All Iāve been thinking is how I can obtain an IP unrelated to Hetzner and attach it to my VPS. Is this more or less what youāre on about? Iād love to find a guide for this.
This is ridiculously stupid.
Of course it was. Any decision to just block or ban a huge swathe of something (be it users, IPs, countries, whatever) by any entity (corporate or government) is always taken lightly, because itās the easiest way out.
What wouldnāt be taken lightly would be a decision to go after the specific users who are violating the ToS. But this would require willingness, money and time, and Plex donāt seem to care about self-hosted users, as this move clearly shows.
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They are proudly calling it āTrade Secretsā the lack of transparency and arrogance makes me think they are accessing personal information which they never should have access to.
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How do we know Plex is talking about Hetzner? I donāt host remotely, itās all at home, no VPN, an yet I got the notice.
ā¦ Plex donāt seem to care about self-hosted users yet, as this move clearly shows.
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Thats so ā ā ā ā ā ā up!
What will be next? OVH? AWS? Azure Cloud?
So before i change my god old Hetzner Servers i will try an alternative to plexā¦
Already got an lifetime Plex Pass 
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I have three servers, how am I supposed to know which server the notice is in relation to?
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All Iāve been thinking is how I can obtain an IP unrelated to Hetzner and attach it to my VPS. Is this more or less what youāre on about? Iād love to find a guide for this.
You canāt attach the IP unrelated to Hetzner to VPS; thatās not a way to solve the issue.
But prepare that unrelated IP if the doomsday is finally coming. Iāll show you how it works.
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