@“MovieFan.Plex” said:
Sorry. It’s still listed on our todo list. Just haven’t had time to get to it.
This is still an issue.
lol, this has been an issue for this long? Are vobsubs really a huge technical hurdle? I’ve noticed this occasionally on my Fire TV but considering the other vobsub issues I was just glad when it was working so minor visual glitches were not a huge deal…but nearly a year of this issue? Along with all the other vobsub issues with the Android client?
@FlashMasta said:
lol, this has been an issue for this long? Are vobsubs really a huge technical hurdle? I’ve noticed this occasionally on my Fire TV but considering the other vobsub issues I was just glad when it was working so minor visual glitches were not a huge deal…but nearly a year of this issue? Along with all the other vobsub issues with the Android client?
Annoying, yes.
@“MovieFan.Plex” said:
Sorry. It’s still listed on our todo list. Just haven’t had time to get to it.
Could this be looked @ along with dropping VOBSUB issue: https://forums.plex.tv/discussion/317605/vobsubs-stop-showing-then-plex-app-on-shield-tv-will-crash-if-you-rewind-or-fast-forward#latest
@Afullmark said:
@“MovieFan.Plex” said:
Sorry. It’s still listed on our todo list. Just haven’t had time to get to it.Could this be looked @ along with dropping VOBSUB issue: https://forums.plex.tv/discussion/317605/vobsubs-stop-showing-then-plex-app-on-shield-tv-will-crash-if-you-rewind-or-fast-forward#latest
It seems like they’re relying pretty heavily on Exoplayer in that regard and is likely the only reason why they have native vobsub support on the android client. I think that’s why it started working pretty well when they switched to Exoplayer v2 and then broke afterwards. Whatever code they started adding post 6.13.7, likely ported code from pre-6.13, broke vobsubs. It should be relatively easy to figure out using regression testing if they compare the 6.13.7 code to 6.14 and see what broke. The main difference I see in the patch notes is support for compressed vobsubs…so arm-chair coder says that code could be the culprit (at least the dropping of vobsubs).
I would be curious what other Exoplayer v2 based Android media players look like the vobsubs as far as the glitches…if they also have that glitch then it may be the Exoplayer code base.
@FlashMasta said:
@Afullmark said:
@“MovieFan.Plex” said:
Sorry. It’s still listed on our todo list. Just haven’t had time to get to it.Could this be looked @ along with dropping VOBSUB issue: https://forums.plex.tv/discussion/317605/vobsubs-stop-showing-then-plex-app-on-shield-tv-will-crash-if-you-rewind-or-fast-forward#latest
It seems like they’re relying pretty heavily on Exoplayer in that regard and is likely the only reason why they have native vobsub support on the android client. I think that’s why it started working pretty well when they switched to Exoplayer v2 and then broke afterwards. Whatever code they started adding post 6.13.7, likely ported code from pre-6.13, broke vobsubs. It should be relatively easy to figure out using regression testing if they compare the 6.13.7 code to 6.14 and see what broke. The main difference I see in the patch notes is support for compressed vobsubs…so arm-chair coder says that code could be the culprit (at least the dropping of vobsubs).
I would be curious what other Exoplayer v2 based Android media players look like the vobsubs as far as the glitches…if they also have that glitch then it may be the Exoplayer code base.
exoplayer doesn’t have VOBSUB support in the main repository; PGS, yes (added to main, open, repository by @drhill ). I do believe plex wrote VOBSUB support themselves. If VOBSUB support could be added to the main repository and not just plex’s version, then others could improve on and note bugs sooner.
@Afullmark said:
@FlashMasta said:
@Afullmark said:
@“MovieFan.Plex” said:
Sorry. It’s still listed on our todo list. Just haven’t had time to get to it.Could this be looked @ along with dropping VOBSUB issue: https://forums.plex.tv/discussion/317605/vobsubs-stop-showing-then-plex-app-on-shield-tv-will-crash-if-you-rewind-or-fast-forward#latest
It seems like they’re relying pretty heavily on Exoplayer in that regard and is likely the only reason why they have native vobsub support on the android client. I think that’s why it started working pretty well when they switched to Exoplayer v2 and then broke afterwards. Whatever code they started adding post 6.13.7, likely ported code from pre-6.13, broke vobsubs. It should be relatively easy to figure out using regression testing if they compare the 6.13.7 code to 6.14 and see what broke. The main difference I see in the patch notes is support for compressed vobsubs…so arm-chair coder says that code could be the culprit (at least the dropping of vobsubs).
I would be curious what other Exoplayer v2 based Android media players look like the vobsubs as far as the glitches…if they also have that glitch then it may be the Exoplayer code base.
exoplayer doesn’t have VOBSUB support in the main repository; PGS, yes (added to main, open, repository by @drhill ). I do believe plex wrote VOBSUB support themselves. If VOBSUB support could be added to the main repository and not just plex’s version, then others could improve on and note bugs sooner.
I guess it is just a coincidence that the move to Exoplayer v2 fixed it and then they broke it again. They should still be able to compare the 6.13.7 to 6.14 code for some kind of fix.
@FlashMasta said:
@Afullmark said:
@FlashMasta said:
@Afullmark said:
@“MovieFan.Plex” said:
Sorry. It’s still listed on our todo list. Just haven’t had time to get to it.Could this be looked @ along with dropping VOBSUB issue: https://forums.plex.tv/discussion/317605/vobsubs-stop-showing-then-plex-app-on-shield-tv-will-crash-if-you-rewind-or-fast-forward#latest
It seems like they’re relying pretty heavily on Exoplayer in that regard and is likely the only reason why they have native vobsub support on the android client. I think that’s why it started working pretty well when they switched to Exoplayer v2 and then broke afterwards. Whatever code they started adding post 6.13.7, likely ported code from pre-6.13, broke vobsubs. It should be relatively easy to figure out using regression testing if they compare the 6.13.7 code to 6.14 and see what broke. The main difference I see in the patch notes is support for compressed vobsubs…so arm-chair coder says that code could be the culprit (at least the dropping of vobsubs).
I would be curious what other Exoplayer v2 based Android media players look like the vobsubs as far as the glitches…if they also have that glitch then it may be the Exoplayer code base.
exoplayer doesn’t have VOBSUB support in the main repository; PGS, yes (added to main, open, repository by @drhill ). I do believe plex wrote VOBSUB support themselves. If VOBSUB support could be added to the main repository and not just plex’s version, then others could improve on and note bugs sooner.
I guess it is just a coincidence that the move to Exoplayer v2 fixed it and then they broke it again. They should still be able to compare the 6.13.7 to 6.14 code for some kind of fix.
The misrendering has been present since 4.29.0 (maybe before, but that’s when I noted it) & was still there in 5.8.0 and is still there today.
@anon18523487 do you still have samples, was this investigated and do you need anything else from me? This problem is still present in the all samples I sent.
The devs fixed the issue with the subtitles not appearing at all. This one for the misrendered subs is still shown as open. Let me check if they need anything for this.
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The latest update has made the misrendering so bad as to be completely unwatchable. Before it would be small issues and crashing, now it is bigly corrupted but not crashing I guess? I can’t watch it at all with subtitles so not able to really test the crashing issues.
Can you post up links to samples where the issue occurs; that will help plex a lot. You also posted on the other Vobsub forum so I’m not sure if you are saying it’s the issue with disappearing subtitles or this problem in this thread with misrendered Vobsubs, which has been an issue forever. I sent samples to @anon18523487 yesterday but they are old sample original to this forum. I would strongly advise that you post screenshots and samples to whichever Vobsub forum is relevant to your issue.
Just to keep this thread updated; samples have been provided to @anon18523487, two from myself on the 27/11/18 (the original ones in this forum) and one showing quite bad rendering issues from @FlashMasta on the 28/11/18.
Let us all hope that the last remains VOBSUB issues can be fixed.
Hey @anon18523487, can you confirm you got the sample I PM’d that @FlashMasta kindly provided?
And a side note @FlashMasta reports that the new iOS experimental player plays Vobsubs perfectly and yet the android tv still does not. It’s been a year, can this misrendering be sorted soon?
I feel like a big reason is them sticking with exoplayer that apparently no one else uses. I’m not sure what is holding them back, Kodi proves that you don’t have to use exoplayer on Android.
I didn’t get a reply from @anon18523487 saying he got your sample that I PM’d him. He did say that subtitles were getting priority, so I am hoping that the misrendering can be pushed through ASAP considering I reported this in Feb 2017. And it’s good that iOS and Apple TV will play graphic subtitles direct now with their MPV player.
I think after this is sorted then subtitles will be perfect on Android. Of course, here in the UK, I still cannot enable subtitles for live TV.
I got your message. They are working with your original sample for now. I’ll grab the other sample once they have something for me to test.
To be clear, there are no such things as subtitles for Live TV. This is called closed captions which is a different animal. The app can’t display this CC info, but we are looking to find a way around this.
Thanks. In the UK they are generally know as dvb subtitles for broadcast TV not CC (that’s American, yes?). I know Plex can record dvb subtitles from a recorded TV show/movie and you can select these in the playback of that recording but you CANNOT do this with LIVE TV. Just in case there was a misunderstanding.
Any update @anon18523487
