What he said was this (with added boldness for emphasis):
This was always a myth! There is no massive v5 waiting behind the scenes, I’m not sure why people thought there was
We do have some cool stuff coming up, but at this point we kind of stuck with 4.10, 4.11, so we’d never have to hit v5!
Don’t read things into a message that aren’t there. It’s usually helpful to assume good intentions when getting into reading between lines.
All that’s written is they’ll stick with incrementing the minor version numbers for now.
Apple kept updating OS X major versions as 10.x for over a decade, until their marketing told them it’ll be cooler to get off that „X“/10. Some browsers make 10+ major release increments every few months without any significant user visible changes.
It’s easy to assume good faith until someone tells you to look up the definition of a basic word in the dictionary, which is a universally recognized action of pretentious netizens that signals the notion “You’re stupid and I’m better than you.” There were many ways you could have said what you had in mind, but you chose the path of passive-aggressiveness. There is no other way this can be interpreted.
…which is what I said.
Elan said never, and I was merely quoting what he was saying, so you can’t say that what I’ve been saying is contradictory of that. Obviously plans can change, but when someone says “never”, the most nuanced possible definition that can be extrapolated is that they really do not plan on that thing happening for as far as they can see ahead, because the word signals a strong, resounding negative. If that’s not what Elan’s comment is supposed to mean, then what else could it possibly mean?
In fact, since there seems to be so much unnecessary confusion surrounding this, @elan, could you please weigh in and explain exactly what you meant?
Sorry, confusion about what?
When you said this in the Fireside thread from a little while ago:
This was always a myth! There is no massive v5 waiting behind the scenes, I’m not sure why people thought there was
For some reason, another person in this thread is trying to start an argument over the semantics of the word “never” as it’s used there, and any “nuance” that might come with it. I thought it seemed pretty clear what “never” means in this context, but if you could elaborate a little on what you meant, I’d really appreciate it.
I don’t know how much more clearly I can state this:
As I thought. Thanks for clearing the air on this for those who somehow didn’t get it.
@tom80H there you go.
So @tom80H is right. Right? 
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I suspect (hah, high conjecture) that with Roon’s monthly subscription fee, they have more of a buffer/position to continue whatever paid integration they have.
Roon has the upper hand now. It’s the best solution for many things. The only drawback is the lack of Dolby Atmos.
A cheap PC and a raspberry pi and you have a high end music system.
More and more manufacturers are tied to their chariot with a plug and play solution.
Audirvana may have some similar features but it’s far from being competitive.
Plex on the other side has some great features and it’s cheaper. Both video and audio support, a lot of clients mainly on TV’s and a great mobile player.
But the competition is fierce.
I appreciate Plex’s commitment to Linux too, especially their desktop players. I spend 75% of my device time on a “dumb TV” setup with HDTV, nice but basic stereo setup, and a Linux desktop box. I switch over to the smart TV only when necessary and avoid small screen devices unless I’m truly mobile.
Plexamp with TIDAL was the easiest way to get lossless audio streaming with gapless playback on Linux. That’s a big thing when you’re on Linux desktop, apparently. Having it along side my local music library anywhere I go was icing on the cake.
Roon is looking rather appealing, ish. The price is still quite high, and I guess the Tidal integration is anyone guess with recent movements.
I see that Roon advertises a max of 100k tracks - I’m not sure if that’s a hard and fast limit, but I have around 360k tracks in Plex so if I were to switch - I’d definitely want to handle that.
Loosing all my play count history would be nightmare as well.
Oh God no!!! 100000 tracks are the “limit” for the small server they sell. The Nucleus One. Actually there is no limit. OK it uses RAM but if you stay to simple playback you can have hundreds of thousands tracks. They have a specific thread for that. 1.000.000 tracks.
The problem is DSP especially DSD upsampling and multizone playback. Of course any decent PC - MAC or NAS can do the job. But they also sell machines and somehow they have to promote them.
I don’t think the price is to high. I pay 15€ per month and I’m more than satisfied. Their algorithm worth the money. And that’s why I PERSONALLY can’t find a single competitor. In the artist page I can discover everything about their music. Influences, similar artists and followers. You can see in the same page Chuck Berry, Beatles, Rolling Stones and Oasis. 50 years of music in a few pixels.
And that’s my problem with everything else. Since 2016 I’ve been spoiled with that. I hope the guys here to implement that deep connections.
That’s great to hear - I couldn’t find anything that said otherwise - will have to look up the forums for that thread.
And no Roon Linux desktop player (yes, I’m intractable about that 
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Guys, let me remind you that the Tidal “integration” in Roon is nothing more than the ability to play Tidal content.
The integration of Tidal in Plex is/was much more involved. It is this kind of deep integration which is being sunset by Tidal.
Therefore a comparison is not quite valid.
How much deeper? In the contrary I see better integration with Roon.
Can you give us details? Because both Plex app and plexamp give much less information than roon.
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