Plex in Trouble

Oh, if you mean the issues you brought up in this thread that’s fine. I’ve just seen you post a lot of issues over the last few weeks and months… :wink:

Also, I think you mean 180 degrees :slight_smile:

Well thanks… I’m glad my clarification has your approval.
Let me make it clear. The way Plex.inc does things still sucks and nothing has changed with that and maybe never will. When plugins or more precisely trakt goes from Plex it will be 95% of the cause for my final switch to Emby.

We all have totally different reasons for looking at Emby I would guess? So taking away the way Plex.inc does things and the PMP loading times which i clearly stated is now apparently not an issue that leaves trakt.

My issue has never been that YOUR choice of client not working. (may i guess it’s some variant of Android TV) If so my only experience is the Shield and apart from the audio/video codec support being good, the Shield is as bad a device as I have ever used regardless of it being Plex, Emby or anything else. Oh and the AFTV which is the whole reason I had to install Plex again in the first place.

Finally… No. I meant 360 that’s why I said “most” of my issues. But thanks for putting words in my mouth yet again. Lets call it 300.

I pretty much agree with @Xhaka in that I abandoned Plex for Emby and then abandoned Emby for Plex. My reasons differ as I do not share my media at all and the only audio I deal with is audiobooks. But Emby just did not quite provide the ability to stream my local media in quite as friendly a way as Plex does and the relatively recent update to the Roku app (currently in preview) has made Plex by far the best way for me to play my local media.

I still keep an up to date Emby server that I fire up to re-sync with Trakt every week or two and I also retest the Emby Roku app at that time.

My issues with both Plex and Emby do not include playback problems at all. Both play my media absolutely flawlessly. The real difference is in the user interface and, since Plex has provided such a great Roku interface, Plex is by far the current winner for me.

Again I want to say that my usage is quite simple and I do not use remote access, live TV/DVR, music or high bitrate/resolution files and that means that I do not tax either system very much and the user interface is of primary importance for me.

BTW: I have a lifetime pass for each service and I do not regret either purchase.

Each person must make their own choice between Emby and Plex if they want to use one or the other. All those of us that have made our choice can do is present why we made our choice. Also I must encourage each person faced with the choice to, if at all possible, try each and actually use them for a while side by side in order to make the best choice for their own use. We can tell our stories all we want but because every instillation is different one person can never totally emulate the setup of others.

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As they do for me locally.
I dont know if you picked up on my comment about the only remote user that can use Emby is a Roku user. I am curious about the Plex preview? Would they have to sign up for it somewhere?

Again, the point I clealy failed to make to @KarlDag
The way we feel about failings with Plex are not not necessarily the same failings, though we may have totally common ground on many of them. I just really don’t like being more or less quoted as saying something that I didn’t get close to saying.

Sorry if I pissed you off. Probably misworded my comments, no point in explaining at this point I guess.

No. They just install it through Roku

You find out more searching for the tag “roku-preview” and/or “roku-beta”. It is still a little rough in places BUT you can completely customize the home page (the link to do that is at the bottom of the home page) and it displays all libraries that the user can access on any server. How the libraries are displayed can be changed at the far right of the home page’s top row. There are also many other customizations available that are mostly accessible through clicking the three dots at the end of many rows.

One more thing the library display for movies, photos, music and TV shows are in a vertical grid like many of us have been asking for for a VERY long time.

Tell those that try it to experiment with it. There is a reset option for most any change you might make.

Edit: It can coexist with the regular Roku app.

I find it slow as crap and can not use it without getting board and wanting to do ANYTHING else besides waiting between navigation screens/pre-play screens, etc…
I hope your experience is more pleasant than mine was.

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lol, thanks.
It wont be my experience though. I never had much love for the roku and the one mentioned is one that I passed on to someone I share my server with. They probably wont even look as they tend to adopt an approach of they’re sharing my media for free foremost, so anything else is secondary. If what they have works they’re unlikely to tinker.
If it goes final and gets forced as the only option they will still never complain.

Been around for a while now, and know most of the ways to edit what the apps and server show (and don’t)- but the latest version of the Roku app (I got the update today) either does not have much customization, or it’s buried somewhere I cannot find.

And the additions to the app are (as many have said in many other posts) mostly the kind of content I would greatly to prefer to avoid. And then there’s plugins- which are gone.

You can find info on customizing the home page at https://support.plex.tv/articles/customizing-the-apps/.

The extra content, if you don’t want them, can be turned off.

Plugins, yup, announced long time ago that it was going away.

Emby will likely have an Audiobook content type by the release of the next stable version of Emby Server. Luke told us audiobooks were on the back burner, but he seemed to come around quickly when I pointed out the many articles that point out the rise in popularity and sales of the audiobook market and how it’s the “fastest growing media format”.

https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/64963-36061-audiobook-changes/?p=656531

Emby does have rough edges, and does not have audiobook support YET, but they’re working on it. Also, the next stable server release will have significant performance improvements with an improved database on the backend.

But… but… you guys made a blog post. Surely everyone using Plex reads that.

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I’m curious, as I don’t (yet) use audiobooks. Outside of audible, where do you buy them? And how/where do you listen to them?

I dont even use plugins. Never have. I have always only used plex for my personal media. What chaps my hide to the core, is the plex app does not work with my Roku 2 XS(Living Room Roku), but works fine on my Roku TV(Bedroom Roku). None of this would be a problem if we still had Plex Classic. Not everyone runs out and buys a new Roku every 6 months. Updating a channel/app to not function properly on older versions of Roku, effectively alienates users of those versions. So, before you start praising Roku, or Plex, think of these thoughts. It’s not just “Plug-ins” folks. The switch to Emby has been a long time coming for some of us anyway. This just might be the straw that breaks the camel’s back.

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There are many many sources for audio books and one of the easiest is LibriVox for free public domain audio books. Also I have a large collection that was owned by my mother that she bought after mostly losing her sight late in life. They were on cassettes but I transferred them to a digital format some years ago. As to how I listen to them currently I am using my Roku with Plex. They were all mp3s and I simply made copies of all of them and renamed those copies to m4v. (I used m4v rather than mp4 because that makes the files easy to recognize) and Roku will play them exactly like they were video files. They effectively become video files with no video part. Most of the other regular clients do not play them correctly.

I have a dedicated Roku for audiobooks and I use my Shield as my audiobook server.

I have enabled “Quick Remote” for Alexia and all I need to do say “Alexia, tell quick remote to play” (or pause) from anywhere in my house and the Roku that is connected to my whole house audio will start and stop whatever audio book is currently playing.

I used to use my Fire TV for this but I prefer using my Roku because I find it easier and the Fire will only play regular audio and the seeking and restarting at the correct position is problematic on the Fire for audio.

I should note that my audio books are mostly single files. Also I use a Roku 3 so I had to get an HDMI audio extractor. I find this setup to be mostly pretty pleasant to use and pretty reliable as well.

The only thing is the playlists for video file are not currently being handled correctly in the new Plex app but I “think” that will be fixed pretty soon. For now I just play the audiobooks one book at a time. That is not too bad as audio books are long and one book will play for 10 hours to as much as 2 1/2 days of playing time so I do not have to start a new one very often.

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It’s all good.
Like I said most of those issues that are deal breakers for ME are now mostly non issues in Plex.
That doesn’t alter the fact that I despise the path that Plex are going down. Like @Elijah_Baley I’m gonna run both Plex and Emby on both my servers. @per_PLEX_ed awesome Gooby script on my remote server means it’s trouble free even on an O/S I’m not too good with.
When plugins finally disappear I will personally be on Emby full time.
No trakt=No Plex. Even more so because the trakt plugin in Emby is so goddam awesome, with its live updating.
My users who have issues with Emby can use Plex and vice versa. I’m tired of messages saying Emby won’t connect or Plex is constantly buffering. I just want to watch my media, not troubleshoot their respective clients, which in many cases I’m unfamiliar with. They all now have options… both Plex & Emby running on two different physical servers. If they say none of those 4 options work then they can f*cking pay for netflix. :joy:

As for my personal setup with PMP or Emby Theatre… well they’re both pretty good. They both direct play the highest Bitrate 4K remux in my collection without issue.
Navigation, which is always gonna be an issue with such huge files on a remote server, is better in Plex without doubt. The much hated way that Plex is now media type based instead of server based actually has merits for my “personal” workflow.

All that said I still prefer Emby Theatre and therefore by default Emby Server. If for no other reason than that I will have no concerns when the day comes that I discover that Trakt is no longer installed on my Plex systems. The other definite reason being able to manage everything on my Emby server via my mobile.

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I believe this was Roku Inc that made this change. They moved forward with their new api and killed legacy support, then removed the legacy apps altogether.

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Where do I buy them, or where does someone buy them?

As @Elijah_Baley said, LibriVox has free audiobooks, sourced from public domain books. There are also several digital storefronts, like Google Books, iTunes, and Audible. Downpour and Libro.fm sell audiobooks DRM-free. Then there’s your local library.

I purchased my audiobooks from Audible, and
then use inAudible (available on the audiobookbay forums) to decrypt and convert them. Audible has many fantastic audiobooks not available anywhere else, and inAudible is the best solution because it can truly losslessly decrypt aax files to aac in mere seconds, and it has an easy-to-use tool for marking/splitting chapters.

Did Plex sellout to some company? Thought it was run by a team of hobbyist for the longest time (Like Emby & Kodi).

My local library provides mp3 audiobooks through a service called overdrive