Nothings been changed that I’m aware of. 
@MovieFan.Plex Did I just shoot myself in the foot? 
If this is unwanted behaviour once again and it’s going to revert to the way it was before, i’m going to be sad. Even sadder if I’m the reason why.
The behavior you want is what is intended, so hopefully it stays this way. It’s possible there was an unrelated bug causing the wrong sub selection and fixing that bug fixed this.
If the problem comes back, please let me know.
I sure will. From our previous interactions it seemed like the logic, the way you intended it, was working just fine and just didn’t incluse my use case. That’s why I thought it had been reworked.
Anyway, if that’s how it’s going to work from now on I’m ok with it, as long as it doesn’t revert randomly in the future.
The logic is to pick the forced subtitle for the preferred subtitle language if the audio matched your preferred audio language. It shouldn’t matter if the preferred languages are the same to each other.
That’s precisely my point. That’s the WRONG logic to apply. And it’s NOT the one working now.
Right now the system picks the forced (edit: FULL) subtitle for my preferred subtitle language only if the audio language is different. Which is the way it should work, that’s why forced subs exist in the first place.
We already went over this, and I’m tired of having to explain it. That’s why I know it’s going to be reverted to a broken state (for me).
Edit: I mistakenly said “forced” instead of “full”, hence the misunderstanding.
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Wait what? Am I understanding this whole thing wrong?
Here’s the logic. I pick my preferred audio language. Lets say Martian, just to be really clear it’s something different.
I pick a movie that has Martian audio. Since this is the audio language I chose, there shouldn’t be a need for subtitles, so it won’t pick the full subtitles. But there may be Venusian spoken too so I will want the forced subtitles to show me the Venusian. Isn’t that what you would expect?
You have described the use of a Forced Subtitle - and Plex is reacting as expected.
@Manujito is most likely marking the full sub ‘Forced’, so Plex will select it. That might work - for a while, until @Manujito wants a Forced Sub to behaving like one - and it may not.
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This example starts from the premise that you picked Martian for both your preferred audio and subtitle language, which should default forced subs, and it’s correct as you described it.
But this should be applied regardless, meaning that even if I don’t have the option “always show subtitles” enabled, they should still pop up, because that’s the point of forced subs, they are FORCED because they always have to be on screen for scenes that have signs or parts in a language that’s different than the one you are listening to.
That’s why there should be a check to see if subtitle and audio language are the same, and act accordingly (which is what the system is doing now, and I hope it stays this way).
If i select “always show subtitles”, it means that I want full subtitles when the languages don’t match.
So in this case, if I pick Martian as my preferred audio language, and Venusian as my preferred subtitle language, I expect the system to default to Martian audio and FULL Venusian subtitles.
If I manually switch to Venusian audio, the system should automatically switch to Forced venusian subtitles.
And I repeat, this is the way the system is working now, and it should remain this way.
The real problem here is that there is a misconception about the use of the “preferred” languages. Preferred means the language that I prefer to hear, not the one that I understand natively. If anything, the logic should be that my native language is the preferred subtitle one, not the audio one.
That’s not what I’m doing at all. I have the subs marked accordingly. My use case is just, I guess, different from most of the people here, since I’m not a native english speaker.
My preferred audio language is english, because that’s what I want to hear.
My preferred subsitle language is italian, because that’s what I want to read.
I have selected “always show subtitles”, because I want the system to default to - english audio, full italian subs - and my point is that this should be the way it works.
I mistakenly said forced instead of full in the last post you replied to, but my point still applies.
The system at the moment is working slightly differently than the way @anon18523487 is describing, since with my preferred audio language, the system defaults to full subtitles in my preferred subtitle language if these languages are different.
If I select the same preferred language for both audio and subtitle, then the system defaults to the forced ones.
This is perfectly fine and exactly how the automatic selection should react, and I just hope it stays this way,
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