@Mike_Mike Comparing channels DVR is not a like for like comparison due to the fact most of the time it creates a virtual channel where it get’s the content direct from the broadcaster over the internet, this in turn means that instead of your own hardware doing all the work it’s the content providers hardware (mostly hardware in a data centre) that multicasts to your firestick.
As for your comment regarding Tivo, you do know when that first released it contained a Risc processor that was way more powerful than most home computers of the time?
If you create a DVR setup using Plex with the same level of hardware that went into the Tivo, but using todays hardware you would not have a single complaint (apart from the cost).
Um, nope, I only used Channels with my same HDHomeRun tuner. It just worked and it worked well with a $29 FireTV Stick.
Somehow I think that my i5-13600 based Test PC now and the i9-13900 I tested earlier are a tad bit more powerful than a $29 FireTV Stick - and the remote actually works unlike with Plex HTPC.
Plex does a decent job with my personal library - but does not do a very good job with old-time MPEG2 over-the-air LiveTV/DVR functions. They need to fix it, drop it, or explain the very specific 8th gen hardware required to make it ‘just work’.
I don’t see anywhere in any Plex documentation that says I need to have any specific high-end hardware or gen 8 CPU (because it is better than a gen 13) etc or even that I have to use a keyboard.
I think we’ll have to agree to disagree on how perfect the LiveTV would be if I only had ultra high end hardware or 8th gen clunkers to make it reliably work.
Thanks for trying to help anyway.
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@Mike_Mike Channels only get’s the channel information from the HDHomeRun and not the stream, that’s handled by the broadcaster by way of a multicast, hence why it’s smoother on a Firestick.
You should not need Plex to explain CPUs and GPUs. I’m sure you are intelligent enough to lookup on Intel’s website for the tech specs and compare for yourself.
You may want to double check your info on the HDHomeRun and how Channels works with it. Channels does not use OTT or IPTV for the local channels you receive via a HDHomeRun tuner and antenna. The tuner is the MPEG2 stream source - not the Internet.
Plex only needs to explain CPUs and GPUs to the extent that someone with an i9-13900 system will not get the same level of performance they would get with an 8th generation system they could buy at a flee market for $25. Assuming you are correct that the 8th gen CPUs beat the the 12th and 13th gen CPUs as far as the integrated video goes.
Plex should also explain that you need a keyboard.
If you’d like to give us all the specific hardware and software specs that we need to get this ‘perfect’ functionality, we would certainly be thankful. The most important info would be the exact model of CPU, speed and amount of RAM, and which ultra-fast NVMe storage we’ll need. And don’t forget to give us that specific display driver we need to make it work as advertised.
@Mike_Mike I’ve doubled checked thanks and it uses multicast.
As for the CPUs and GPUs, you seem to be mixing those two up as well. Just because a CPU has a higher generation number does not make it faster, you need to look at the specs and benchmarks and that’s your job as part of your research you do as a consumer prior to any purchase.
I’ve doubled checked thanks and it uses multicast.
Oh good lord, please just stop already. 
Pretending that you know how something works (yet again) when you clearly don’t isn’t helping anyone here.
You may want to triple check if you still think the HDHomeRun tuner is only providing guide information. The HDHomeRun is the MPEG2 source - period. In fact, Channels will keep recording even if the Internet connection fails mid-broadcast… But I’m sure you’ll explain to us how that can happen because of Multicasting. The MPEG2 stream can just magically still be recorded off the Internet even when the Internet connection is interrupted because, well, multicasting.
I’m not mixing CPUs and GPUs up and I am well aware of CPU specs and performance. Or, maybe I’m mistaken and you can show me which 8th gen CPUs are faster than an i9-13900 I was testing with?
Please, just give us the 8th gen specs we need to make the LiveTV/DVR Plex functions work ‘perfectly’ as you so clearly have done.
i5 13600 UHD 770
i5 8500 UHD 630
UHD 750 beats UHD 630:
UHD 770 beats UHD 750:
@e10kstarfire That’s why I said don’t use a UHD as they are rubbish, instead look for a CPU that has Iris Xe, even some of the gen8 has them and they out perform the even the 13th gen that use UHD.
See here: https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-UHD-Graphics-770-vs-Intel-Iris-Xe/m1701638vsm1268515
You made a generic statement, as I quoted, that I wanted to clarify is not correct.
Can you point me at 8th gen with integrated Xe graphics please.
@e10kstarfire
You made a generic statement, as I quoted, that I wanted to clarify is not correct.
Which statement are you referring to?
Please point me to an article stating your fact is true.
Please also link me to a 8th gen CPU with Intel Xe
@e10kstarfire See below specs that compare the graphics from 8thgen to your 13th gen that use UHD 770.
You made a generic statement, as I quoted, that I wanted to clarify is not correct.
Please point me to an article stating your fact is true.
Please also link me to a 8th gen CPU with Intel Xe
@e10kstarfire Not sure why you have repeated the same comment multiple times, see my last reply for details.
Note: See below why Iris graphics out perform UHD as UHD is based upon the now very old HD graphics.
You made a generic statement, as I quoted, that I wanted to clarify is not correct.
Please point me to an article stating your fact is true.
Please also link me to a 8th gen CPU with Intel Xe
You can’t as you are wrong, and too stubborn or something to admit it
@e10kstarfire I’m posting you the facts, but you seem to be just wanting to spam the same thing all the time, have you not got anything to say in regards to what I’ve posted or are you just going to post the same thing for the 4th time?
Until your answer my points directly, yes 
@e10kstarfire That’s just a typical troll reply rather than anything constructive.
Answer my points!!
You made a generic statement, as I quoted, that I wanted to clarify is not correct.
Please point me to an article stating your fact is true.
Please also link me to a 8th gen CPU with Intel Xe
If your next reply does not do that, directly, I rest my case
