Keep in mind that Google search is personalized for each person based on a lot of factors that only Google knows fully. If you keep preferring Reddit when you search, Google will feed you Reddit. Your search pages might not be identical to mine for this reason.
But I agree that Reddit is most likely ranked a lot higher than the Plex forums in the Google search.
As I said, I literally never get results from “forums.plex.tv”, when googling for Plex issues (unless explicitly forcing the site parameter).
I get support.plex.tv, Reddit and after that LOADS of other Websites and Forums.
e.g. Google Search
I’m just saying that what results you get might be different from what someone else gets.
Feel free to compare yours, thats the reason I posted link and screenshots.
I saw no real difference though between me logged in on my Home Computer vs. Incognito vs. Not logged in on my Work Computer.
Google uses a plethora of variables to determine what results to present their users. IP, Geolocation, what user is logged in or not, what browser you use (Google doesn’t give a ■■■■ about incognito in their own browser) just to name a few.
Comparing yours to mine is not the point I’m trying to make. I’m just saying that your experience is not the ultimate truth of the world for each person using Google search.
Well obviously there are many people that don’t get results from the forums, so that’s exactly what points to a poor SEO.
at least you can still access the posts there after searching google and it point to one.
Did anybody try the same search in the forum?
You also have a variety of some pretty specific filters to narrow down your search to find exactly what you’re looking for. I’m not saying it’s just as convenient as Google, but what is?
Just because you see a Reddit link at the top of your Google search doesn’t mean it’s automatically a solution. It just means somebody else had a similar problem
How many different reasons could there be for Plex crashing?
How anybody feels about Reddit or the subreddits protesting is just a personal opinion which everybody is entitled to
This is the part I’m failing to understand
To me, coming here to complain about what “Plex” is doing is like standing in the customer service line at Walmart to complain about the s**t you bought on Amazon
I suggest you join their Discord server so the right people can hear what you have to say
I hope you get exactly what you want and don’t experience any kind of aggravation like this
So far that has not been my experience in life, but I wish you luck lol
Nah no interest in further arguing my point on another platform.
I’m sure folks at Plex have seen my position and have done with it what they will. I’m not a crazy millennial who thinks I am owed something here. I’m just announcing my thoughts on the town square here and arguing my case with folks like you.
Besides, I dislike Discord as a platform for this type of ■■■■ for the very reason it is not indexed by search engines and it makes it more difficult to find answers to questions. Discord has its place but it’s not a replacement for Reddit, and it’s not designed to be.
Also for what it’s worth, I’ve historically preferred forums like this which were dedicated to a topic. Mostly because it’s how I grew up with the interwebs. I hated Reddit for a long time because I found it to have lackluster information. But as it grew and matured and as more good content was easily searched from Google and the like, I started using it more and more…
So alas, my point stands about burying information only hurting the users.
You obviously didn’t get my point at all.
And the search term was just a simple example of course.
I was primarily speaking to Nick about the Reddit/Subreddit situation
Your point was already countered by elan and sensei, so I didn’t really find it necessary to take a deep dive on how you think Google works
I simply reused your hypothetical search term in my example, as to what you could find in the forum as an alternative
My point was, I don’t need Google
It seems obvious to me that if you’re looking for forum posts you look in the forum but I guess that’s just me
Don’t mistake someone not understanding you with someone not paying much attention to you
Then thanks for confirming now, that you didn’t understood my point.
You are correct
Honestly, I had to look back through the post to even find out why you addressed me because I only very quickly skimmed over most of what you said
I apologize for not giving you the attention you need
Looks like the Reddit sub is back, just wanted to circle back to this thread.
I am fairly confident at this point that the blackout for the subreddit was just an example of the vocal minority.
Still wish Plex would have stepped up to the responsibility and taken ownership of the sub.
I suspect otherwise. A lot of original Reddit protests had large support for blacking out based on polls done before-hand. Since no opposition group/setup was ready in time for the sudden protests, the majority of actual reddit users were in favor of this.
After this became a polarizing issue, a lot of reddit lurkers, or people who just don’t read it daily, were upset over not having instant access to their reddit the one day a week they visit, so became annoyed. Hearing the very vocal CEO of reddit who blamed “landed gentry” moderators, they instantly formed a negative opinion, reinforced by the lack of access at that moment.
Since the public is the source of Reddit’s content, it feels insulting to me that Reddit claims that these posts are REDDIT’S property, and how dare anyone else see this content without paying Reddit for the privilege to do so.
When the subs un-blacked out, I believe a very dedicated group of complainers went to each forum to argue against continuing the protest, taking the stance that ANY sub protesting is a personal insult to the user themself. I believe this is why we all see a lot of push-back against continuing the protests. I didn’t see a SINGLE pro-protest comment in the poll on Plex.reddit, so I’m surprised that it was still a close vote at 53 for and 47 against. This feels to me that the angry “OPEN” users were shouting down any discussion.
I DO see the harm it can do to your normal users, but that happens to be the only way to hurt Reddit itself. Starve Reddit of the content they get freely from fans, and hopefully win the public to their argument. This did not happen, and Reddit won the messaging. It’s all a ■■■■ show.
(I am in favor of this protest, but then I lurk in these forums and not reddit. Nothing in Reddit is important enough that a downed Reddit sub for a few weeks will hurt.)
[I think a better example of what may have been a better outcome is what /r/ZFS did
They never went private but they halted new file system discussion.
Then Jim Salter made a new discourse server. This way people could still access historical information, but a new home was laid out. In the Plex example, it was total blackout which was not a good outcome for normal folks. Sure these forums pre date the subreddit entirely, but the issue was the blackout not the new home.
Oh thank goodness. I thought you wrote “Discord” and I was going to be angry. So many forums have gone from the public Internet to Discord. 
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