Dear Dev Team,
Sometimes subtitles or other metadata were not available at the time of the import. When that happens, I have go to that particular media later on and manually click in the refresh button in the web client.
I would like to do that in other types of clients, e.g., from my GoogleTV or iPhone or iPad. That would make my life way easier, and I don't believe that it is too much effort to implement that.
Thank you
+1 on that
Sorry, can't go with you here on this one... I don't want any of my clients to be able to update/refresh/modify the metadata or have any effect on the file system. It's too easy to log in with PlexWeb to do that. If I've spent countless hours curating my library, I don't want someone to come along and "refresh" my data away. Perhaps if I had more trust in the "Locks" that supposedly prevent that.
Or maybe if there was some rights that had to be granted to the specific user/client (similar to "Allow clients to delete").
Just my $.02.
HI Plexperimentalist,
If someone wants to mess with your data, they can log in in the web client and do it anyways. However, 'Refresh' won't mess with your custom edits. Let's say that for example you explicitly modify a summary of a TV show episode on your Plex library. If you hit the refresh button, the refresh procedure won't overwrite your custom edits. Give it a try.
My idea was just a convenience to avoid me to get a computer, while I could do directly on the player. I don't even need to edit the metadata. I just would like to refresh to run the agents to fetch the shows summaries and subtitles.
And btw, seems silly to have a 'delete media' feature on the plex client and not 'refresh'. And 'yes' I do delete media from the client. :D
Sorry, can't go with you here on this one... I don't want any of my clients to be able to update/refresh/modify the metadata or have any effect on the file system. It's too easy to log in with PlexWeb to do that. If I've spent countless hours curating my library, I don't want someone to come along and "refresh" my data away. Perhaps if I had more trust in the "Locks" that supposedly prevent that.
Or maybe if there was some rights that had to be granted to the specific user/client (similar to "Allow clients to delete").
Just my $.02.
Understood. And I agree with you about the hypocrisy of allowing "delete" but not "refresh." :rolleyes:
But I don't agree here... someone cannot "log in in the web client and do it anyways" because I have a PIN on my account. Others can view my libraries from PlexWeb, but they cannot update/refresh/ modify anything. I like it that way.
Lastly, my experience has been that a "Force Refresh" will, in fact, update entire libraries and does not respect locked fields. Another Plex hypocrisy?
Reference the following Support Article: https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/201697363-How-is-Force-Refresh-different-from-Update-Library-
It shouldn't over write locked fields otherwise what's the point of locking them?
Are you sure you're locking them? IE tab to next field after making a change in said locked field.
Exit edit and go back in to see it still there and locked?
if you then do a force and it over writes it then it's a BUG that needs reporting and fixing!!!
It shouldn't over write locked fields otherwise what's the point of locking them?
Exactly.
My apologies to the OP, as I'm not trying to hijack the original thread or intent, but I am not alone in the "Lock" frustration issue:
https://forums.plex.tv/topic/159160-custom-edit-info-has-been-reset/?hl=lock
https://forums.plex.tv/topic/158940-plex-renamingreverting-locked-titles/?hl=lock
https://forums.plex.tv/topic/155673-any-way-to-lock-posters-and-fanart/?hl=lock
https://forums.plex.tv/topic/21864-lock-all-metadata-button/?hl=lock#entry864860
Solutions for this frustration range from "use unmatch" to "make sure Local Media Assets are listed first."
Why can't we just have a Lock that LOCKS, regardless of any of the other settings or agents or whatever?
I haven't read through them but will.
I'm not sure I get this however, If you call it a duck it better swim, look and act like a duck. If you call it a LOCK it better act like a LOCK and NEVER allow any update EVER unless it's manually done to over rule the LOCK.
I personally don't use the lock function to much anymore. I try and do it offline by creating NFO files. I figure if I'm making a change then I want it to stick in case I ever need to reload.
I know that's besides the point, however as it should function properly.
Give me direct (read: complete) support for .NFO files in native Plex... and I'd be a happy man.
Provided this is simply running a scan to refresh what is already contained in the libraries and including NEW un scanned media I'm all with this...
But any editing or changing of the data itself should only be done directly from the server.
And not from those who simply have share status.
nice to have, but superlow priority. You can scan your libary after inserting a new media. Also there is a feature for auto scanning, if something in your libary is changed.
-1 - I think this feature is not necessary and there are solutions for the problems.
+1, but only once the lock is corrected.
What I would prefer to see is a permission system implemented that you could determine which users have full admin and remote control functions for the server but could be denied to everyone else.
Once a permission system is in place Users could also be limited by what devices they could stream to as well with the Admin being the only one who can stream to any device in the system while limiting users ability to stream to some rooms but not others.
All in All a lot of very nice features can be implemented once a good User and tiered access auth system is in place.
What I would prefer to see is a permission system implemented that you could determine which users have full admin and remote control functions for the server but could be denied to everyone else.
Once a permission system is in place Users could also be limited by what devices they could stream to as well with the Admin being the only one who can stream to any device in the system while limiting users ability to stream to some rooms but not others.
All in All a lot of very nice features can be implemented once a good User and tiered access auth system is in place.
That is actually a good idea.
I haven't had any problems refreshing the library and getting the data override... Perhaps because my 'Local Media Assets' are listed first in the Agents?
Other thing is, I don't want to refresh the entire library. As I stated in my first post, right now I'm clicking in the Movie/TV Show and then clicking on refresh to get the subtitles for that particular movie/tv show. This is only necessary when at the time of the import of that media the subtitles weren't available. This functionally already exists. I just don't want to grab my computer every time that I have to do it. Would be easier doing the same thing from a tablet or phone with the plex app.
-- Tiago
That is actually a good idea.
I haven't had any problems refreshing the library and getting the data override... Perhaps because my 'Local Media Assets' are listed first in the Agents?
Other thing is, I don't want to refresh the entire library. As I stated in my first post, right now I'm clicking in the Movie/TV Show and then clicking on refresh to get the subtitles for that particular movie/tv show. This is only necessary when at the time of the import of that media the subtitles weren't available. This functionally already exists. I just don't want to grab my computer every time that I have to do it. Would be easier doing the same thing from a tablet or phone with the plex app.
-- Tiago
And simply asking Plex to refresh the sections shouldn't change any data....
If the file has already been properly identified and scraped then a refresh won't change any of the metadata at all.
The issue would be if the file you are trying to get listed is not properly identified during the scraping and should the remote user be allowed to properly fix mismatch. I would think this might be the only problem as far as data change happening...Not the simple act of refreshing the cats.
In the meantime you should check your server/settings/library/showadvanced to update library automatically and do a partial scan when changes are detected.
This should solve your issue for the most part but it sometimes doesn't always detect the change and a manual refresh is needed.
So a simple option to refresh library would be a good thing to have.
Even if it was only limited to already scraped content folders.
And simply asking Plex to refresh the sections shouldn't change any data....
If the file has already been properly identified and scraped then a refresh won't change any of the metadata at all.
The issue would be if the file you are trying to get listed is not properly identified during the scraping and should the remote user be allowed to properly fix mismatch. I would think this might be the only problem as far as data change happening...Not the simple act of refreshing the cats.
In the meantime you should check your server/settings/library/showadvanced to update library automatically and do a partial scan when changes are detected.
This should solve your issue for the most part but it sometimes doesn't always detect the change and a manual refresh is needed.
So a simple option to refresh library would be a good thing to have.
Even if it was only limited to already scraped content folders.
If my Movie/TV Show metadata is correct but the subtitles haven't been found yet, a Refresh will trigger the Agent to look for the subtitles at that particular time. An Library update (includes the being automatic) does not trigger agents for already processed media. Just a "Hard Refresh" does the trick (the one you go into the media and click on 'Refresh').
-- Tiago
Super +1 on this. I just logged to post this and found the thread. Its the only thing I miss from XBMC when using Plex. Its all about the subtitles, if you use sickrage or anything like that to automatically download new tvshows, when they are imported there are (normally) no subtitles so the episode's metadata is downloaded, all the info is there but no subtitles.
Today, I watched a pending episode I had which is a week old and it still didnt have subtitles so the automatic update doesnt re-check for subtitles.
Anyway, as OP stated, if I run my plex and theres no subtitles for my episode I have to login (with cellphone or walk to the computer) to the web app and refresh the episode, it does sucks, and more if you are not home to do the process fast.
++++++1 on this.
PS. or, it could always recheck for subtitles but that would me more work, rechecking all the episode/movies that doesnt have subtitles :/ yea.-..no
+1 for this. Would be ideal to be able to refresh a single tv episode/movie from a client. That way the whole library would not be messed with, but you would be able to get eg a subtitle for that one episode you are about to watch, and can’t be bothered getting off the couch to fetch your computer to update 
Really hoping for this feature
Early 2021 clean-up: implemented (clients supporting an option to initiate “scan library files” action)
