Remote streaming will be a Plex Pass feature

What absolute nonsense.

You have had free use of software that cost Plex to develop and maintain.

Yes there are alternatives so happy you found one that does what you need.

I’ve been running JF and Emby for a few years now, just to keep an eye on alternatives to Plex.

Personally, neither come close to what Plex offers.

However, to join a forum just to rant that something will cost you that was free before is rich.

Enjoy.

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Just curious, how much of the media on your server did you pay for, and where can I find a vendor that will sell me media without DRM in digital form that I can purchase to download?

It’s all gopro and phone video. I don’t save my crap to android/iCloud. Tell me again how they’re not greedy AF paygating a basic feature that has long since been developed.

Didn’t you move to Jellyfin ?

Still here ?

I did swap over. Seems the same only better. Less cloud-esk services and it’s way more responsive.

Most importantly, it’s free. I don’t care if Plex wants to innovate and charge for those features. But the network function of a software is basic. They provide no p2p worth a crap and want to charge me after I open my ports and use my bandwidth to host my own files. Plex expecting to be paid for that is whats rich, bud.

Don’t take JohnAlex’s flippant replies for all of us. Yes, this change sucked. I’ve previously mentioned that it makes zero sense that the claim is a person’s personal media requires (additional) Plex infrastructure when remote. If you were to use your media within your household and never go out, you use up as much Plex resources currently (and previously) as you would if you were to access your media remotely.

At this point, the forums have kind of calmed down from the furor of this change. There is nothing we can do about it other than leave. The developers know this is an insanely unpopular move, but it’s a take it or leave it situation. For those of us with Plex Pass, this changes nothing, but I still absolutely hate the change. I no longer highly recommend Plex as a home server bundle to anyone I can find, as the pass is now REQUIRED for Plex to be usable outside the home, and they nearly tripled the price of the pass overnight.

The world lost something special with this change, and there is nothing we can do about it.

Bye then. Enjoy.

You have a PlexPass, you lost nothing,

Oh and my comments were not flippant. They were honest, accurate and intended.

None of my family have PlexPass and nor do they pay for accessing material on my server.

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Seems pretty petty to come out and basically say “We got ours, f*** you!”

I have sympathy for this user, and any other user I USED to recommend Plex to. Software that “just worked” to access your own media with little or no Plex involvement now requires paying the company $250 up front to receive an encryption certificate on login.

This you?:

…. make an account to whinge about getting software for free and now being asked to pay for that software.

Software that has been and still is being developed.

I got a PlexPass over a decade ago and very thankful that Plex decided to honour a lifetime offer.

However, I’ve said many times in this forum and directly via email to Plex that I would pay again to be able to use the software.

Family and friends still get to remotely access media on my server for free and use Plex player software for free. That is a very generous approach by Plex.

As for your reference to a reply I made, nothing flippant about it based on the definition of flippant. It was actually an open and honest question and comment.

I made clear why I am still here even after having used and still using non Plex options.

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Puppies and butterflies :joy::+1:

Edit - on that flippant comment, I’ll now gladly leave the thread.

I sometimes don’t understand the Chicken Little viewpoints expressed in these forums. Plex had a real problem. Specifically, they needed to increase their revenue to realize development goals (ostensibly to better serve home media server users).

In order to do this, they took a few actions:

  • They increased the prices of Plex Pass subscriptions. While the increases for the Lifetime subscription were steep, those for the monthly subscription were fairly modest. My understanding is that these prices had also not increased in nearly a decade. In-and-of itself, these price increases seem reasonable given recent inflation increases.
  • They moved a feature from their free tier to requiring a Pass (either Plex Pass or Remote Watch Pass). There’s likely an interesting Venn diagram of those whom this affects, but it was a valuable feature which was likely deemed to cause the least harm to existing Plex Pass members while still allowing free users an option to continue using the software for free, although with a new restriction.
  • They introduced the Remote Watch Pass. This somewhat mitigates the impact of the monetization of remote viewing by allowing free users a lower barrier to entry to continue using Plex remotely without the expense of the full Plex Pass subscription.

My opinion is that Plex acted fairly thoughtfully and with consideration of the impact these changes would have on their users. They didn’t paywall use of the software, rather one aspect of the software. Not to mention, while they were doing this they eliminated the need to activate their mobile clients to further mitigate the cost. It’s now possible that one can use Plex completely free on their local network with a mobile device; this was not possible in the past.

The argument that it costs Plex nothing to provide remote access functionality is a non-starter. There is infrastructure required to support it in the manner which they have, providing secure remote access with encryption by default. They’ve decided to use the Plex Pass (or Remote Watch Pass) to subsidize this cost. Get over it.

Further, there are stupidly-simple methods (which I’ll not mention here) to completely bypass the remote access changes, some of which are already employed by those needed to bypass CG-NAT.

This is much ado about nothing.

Moving from Plex to Jellyfin because of a perceived increase in ease-of-use with regard to remote access is like moving from a small mid-western US town to New York City expecting a lower crime rate.

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you can still access your media, plex is not holding it hostage, it is right there on your disk, wtf are you talking about.

Imagine being so entitled to demand other people work for you for free.

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Only when I’m at home. I share it with the family too. My kid rides motocross and we make GoPro videos. Why is this such a hard concept? Plex turns up greedy charging for a basic feature and bootlickers just suckle it down and accept it.

A for profit company charging money for their services is greedy? Do you work for free? Please come over here and maw my lawn then. Why is this such a hard concept?

How is it plex’s responsibility that you can watch your kids motocross videos outside your home for free? You are so entitled, it’s crazy.

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Calling everyone who isn’t furious a bootlicker makes about as much sense as calling everyone who is furious a lunatic. Nuance and politeness are on life support around here and I usually put at least one person on my ignore list every time I visit.

I implore all the internet tough guys to consider elevating the discourse here instead of attacking other users.

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What are the new charges that Plex will be implementing?

I have been playing around with Emby lately and it does a good job!!

Piracy software asking for a subscription, :joy::joy::joy: now I saw everything - I can now cancel my internet service.

Huh ?

What you choose to put on your server is your business (well and any authority that now wants to look at your metadata).

P:lex doesn’t actually pirate anything.

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