Singles and Tracks focus | Not Album | Best Practices

QUESTION

  • I don’t do albums generally speaking.
  • I am a track only guy, although I have been capturing album names recently updating them via Picard, & AudioRanger.
  • I play music by artist, and then look at tracks mostly. Also by genre.

Plex seems to be focused on Albums… “Various artists” or albums I’d never look at.
There’s no ‘real’ albums I’d want to listen to as a search method… it’s all ARTIST, and genre, mood based.

What are you suggestions or recommendations how to best set this up?

Do I just copy across the Artist for every track to Album Artist?

  • I have read all the help centre FAQ’s and forum posts.

I am open to bulk editing.

What are best practices?

I could just make sure all ARTISTS and in ALBUM ARTISTS?
What happens if I put all ALBUMS - deleting them and leaving blank?

Possibly a way forward; naming “Albums” as genres of sorts? :thinking:

Or just accepting VARIOUS artists in ALBUM ARTIST? And that there will be a TON of random stuff in there?

I do my music the same way. Basically, my music is lumped into various folders based mostly on “genre” or “mood”, whatever you’d call it. It started when I collected Oldies music, then I created a folder for more modern “rock”, etc. It sounds - like me - that you never much care for listening to an entire album of one artist (if you even have entire albums), so album sort seems like a silly thing to focus on.

For now, I’ve set the “Genre” tag in all of them using MP3Tag to match the folder name, then I only browse by “Genre” then by “track”. This gets me close to my old style, where I see every song in the folder together, a sort of folder view.

I plan to redo my music collection again, but this time set every single song “Album Artist” tag to “Various Artists”, then set their “Album” to match the folder itself. This will essentially be the same as my “Genre” mode as before, but it’ll be easier to get to a particular folder this way rather than having to pick “Genre” and then pick from a large list. I ought to be able to just go to album view and see my few folders as options and quickly queue it all up from there.

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Ha, so you’d recommend that. Dang.

Every single “Album Artist” = Various Artists…

I don’t get the “set the Album to match the folder itself” part though. Able to provide some examples? Elaborate? Would this kill anything like getting artist bio etc. and you would have to only ever use local metadata?

Well, I recommend it because I dislike how Plex takes in all this metadata for my songs. I used to be the same way with my movies and shows, but those are already well organized. However, my music is a hodgepodge of random songs by random people. Plex tries to organize it according to album (one song per album) or artist (usually also one song per artist).

So what used to be various “genre”-like folders, with each song in them sorted alphabetically by title, becomes one massive list of “albums” or “artists” sorted seemingly randomly, including every single song I have regardless of folder/genre separation. Not to mention, the genre tags that Plex assigns (taken from MusicBrainz or other online music metadata sites) are not an acceptable alternative to my own organization option.

Folder view in the library will still get me my music, but it does not allow queue operations on an entire folder, so my old fav of selecting a folder of folders and shuffling its contents is impossible, requiring I drill down and add every single song one by one to a queue. I suppose I could do that all once, then create a playlist of said songs in the future, but that is not my only problem with Plex and music.

Plex has an annoying habit of lumping songs together that have no album artist tag. Rather than slap on “unknown artist” or “various artists” on an unknown album, it tends to pick a random artist from my library and assign them to the album. Thus, I often end up with one artist with 29 albums to their name, maybe one song is theirs. But since it lists this artists music by [Unknown Album] with a single song in each, it is REALLY hard to see which ones belong to them or not. Look at this:


I have no option, on the artist level, of displaying a long list of songs supposedly attributed to this guy. Each of these unknown garbage albums are a random techno I picked up “somewhere” a long time ago. I’d have to do 10 minutes research just to find out who made it. The albums WITH names are some of my Video Game music that also somehow got lumped in.

Plex just has a hard time handling songs with minimal metadata. Often when I DO have a full album of songs (like a game soundtrack), but the track numbers were stripped from the title and the metadata, Plex will create one album for each song, which I will then have to work to recombine into one album.

/rant

Anyway, take what I’D do to my library to make it manageable as a stupid but workable way, not the “proper” way. But I’ll explain further: Set the album to match the folder itself. This is mainly because my music metadata is crap. Like, horrible to non-existent. In fact, I think I recently stripped all of it, because I have so many songs it’d take a week to correct, if music-brainz even has it in their detection database. In particular, video game music I’ve gotten often are remixes by completely random people that I do not care to worry about. So I feel like I ought to just Make up an album for video game music CALLED Video Game Music and force Plex to use local metadata. I don’t care that it will have no album art, no album artist, no album description, no artist description. I just want Plex to not present me 1000 different “albums” of my VG music, but rather perhaps one per game, which I can then easily queue up with one click.

To clarify, I have a folder called “Oldies”. In it is every single oldies song I found relatively kicking when I grew up listening to them. Within that is a folder or two when I happened to have more than a few songs by any one artist. Beatles, Beach Boys, etc. I plan to load it ALL up into MP3Tag, and manually set all their album tag to “Oldies”. Plex should see this and honor the tag, creating one large “Oldies” album. It’s going to have an album artist of “Various Artists” of course. Then, since Plex will list this one “album” as a few hundred “Oldies” albums (due to no track numbers), I will them combine them using Plex’s “Merge album” option, so I have one “Oldies” album. Repeat for Rock, VGMusic, Classical music, etc.

Doing this will - yes - kill artist bios and break metadata collection. I’m fine with it though. As I said above, most of my music likely has no usable metadata to find, so I’d prefer to create custom metadata ahead of time and have Plex honor it.

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Thanks for the breakdown. I have bout 4,000 songs/singles, and probably only 4 albums entirely lol.

I have been using Music Picard to get a ton of metadata updated. Most of my music were remixes from French house blogs etc. and not ‘popular’, so scanning - most have no audio signature ID’s.

Submitting them, even with a plugin for Plex to then pull in data from MusicBrainz is manual AF - got to verify each with tags, etc. So not going that route. Why can’t it just accept verbatim the metadata currently and add audio signature; and if nothing else currently exists - use that?

I have about 400 songs without GENRE I am going to manually add in bulk, via Audio Ranger (mp3 tagger).

I feel a bit torn; I’d like artist bio’s etc. but if Plex is using Albums to do all that; waste of time…
so yeah, wondering if there is a hybrid possibility?

I have all the metadata, and change ALBUM ARTIST to VARIOUS ARTISTS → and ALBUM becomes… e.g. [NAME OF GENRE - ARTIST] or mood… or ALBUM: ARTISTS NAME? as a way of collating?

But couldn’t you just make playlists based on the GENRE?

Hmm

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