@Elijah_Baley are you using CloudDrive in combination with DrivePool to automatically replicate your library like I do?
@cayars said:
@Elijah_Baley are you using CloudDrive in combination with DrivePool to automatically replicate your library like I do?
I would like to use that solution as it would be both easy and effective but my upload is so slow that I doubt it could be implemented effectively for me.
However I am going to try to implement a solution using some combination and just allow it to continue running until I get everything uploaded. It may take a half a year or so but I guess it will work eventually. I do not really need another backup so time is not an issue but I think it may provide some extra security. The advantage is that the combo is very much a background task and therefore not much of an impact on the primary usage of the system.
I wish I could set up DrivePool to do primary storage and secondary backup locally and tertiary backup on the cloud drive but that seems beyond DrivePool’s abilities. As with most things there are no perfect solutions.
I use iDrive for backups, OneDrive to allow my wife and I the ability to share files while being mobile, and Dropbox for business so others can share those files. My house can catch on fire but all my data is safe in the cloud and I can retrieve it from a hotel anywhere in the world.
@cayars said:
@Elijah_Baley are you using CloudDrive in combination with DrivePool to automatically replicate your library like I do?
Got anymore info on this / links?
Brief view: Cloud drive is a complimentary product to DrivePools.
You can create and add other providers via Cloud Drive to DrivePool,
If you have encryption turned on for your AMC drive then you can add this drive to DrivePool.
You can then set DrivePool to replicate your storage to the AMC drive.
Obviously a super simple explanation of how to use the two products together but a bit of experimentation will open your eyes to how you can setup automation of local libs to the Cloud.
Carlo
@Elijah_Baley said:
I keep going back and forth about using the cloud as a backup but I think I will simply bite the bullet and begin the process of copying my Library to Amazon. (I have to keep Amazon’s storage for other reasons anyway)
Once your files are on one of the cloud servers, theoretically you’ll never have to upload them again. IF Amazon or any other service you decide to use goes out of business, it’s reasonable to assume that they will give enough notice for you to hire a VPS and swiftly copy your files across to another cloud service. Or, better still, once your files are up there, pick a secondary cloud account and keep the two in sync… “just in case”.
Imagine for a moment, we’re ALL on the cloud. Well, the majority of us. Let’s presume %82 of us are on the cloud. Hard drive manufacturers build small HDD’s because all the storage is in the cloud. Like a Chromebook or something. No need to keep large ISO’s for games or BluRays on your computer, you store them on the cloud. One can surmise that once the market share is procured corporations may, (keeping in line with current business practices such as those services for program subscriptions like Office365, Google drive etc.) begin charging for usage of their services. So now you pay for storage. Faster access than 1Mbit is $14.99, streaming or media services is another $5.99 etc. etc.
You may be thinking wait, wait. Who cares? I’ll download my data back to my computer. Forget them and this overpriced service.
But wait. It’s been years since the majority of us moved to the “amazing cloud” and hard drives are much more expensive because they’re made in limited numbers only for hardcore enthusiasts. Etc. So, apply this type of scenario and ask yourself two things and perhaps an after thought:
- Could it happen like that?
- Do I want to contribute to this type of central control of content?
- I wonder when the MPRIAA will get their court documents to inspect my music and find out which ones don’t seem to have DRM?
Just some thoughts on the topic. I understand the price point. But you know, as you learn in life, not everything is about money.
Exactly. One day the hammer will come down on the content on these servers, encrypted or not. I want no part of it.
@hthighway said:
If I was starting over I would definitely consider thehosted routeas my only PMS.I could rent a dedicated server in a datacenter and subscribe to a cloud provider for unlimited storage and pay those fees for 5 years before I reached the amount I spent on my current hardware. And that doesn’t even take into consideration the cost of electricity.
Other than a slight delay when clicking play, the user experience when streaming from a setup like above is just like playing from a local server. Assuming you have decent bandwidth.
Plex Cloud is an even simpler & cheaper way of hosting your Plex Media Server off-site. I already have Plex Pass & G Suite for Business which gives me unlimited Google Drive storage so my Plex setup literally costs me nothing.
@libertymedia said:
Imagine for a moment, we’re ALL on the cloud. Well, the majority of us. Let’s presume %82 of us are on the cloud. Hard drive manufacturers build small HDD’s because all the storage is in the cloud. Like a Chromebook or something. No need to keep large ISO’s for games or BluRays on your computer, you store them on the cloud. One can surmise that once the market share is procured corporations may, (keeping in line with current business practices such as those services for program subscriptions like Office365, Google drive etc.) begin charging for usage of their services. So now you pay for storage. Faster access than 1Mbit is $14.99, streaming or media services is another $5.99 etc. etc.You may be thinking wait, wait. Who cares? I’ll download my data back to my computer. Forget them and this overpriced service.
But wait. It’s been years since the majority of us moved to the “amazing cloud” and hard drives are much more expensive because they’re made in limited numbers only for hardcore enthusiasts. Etc. So, apply this type of scenario and ask yourself two things and perhaps an after thought:
- Could it happen like that?
- Do I want to contribute to this type of central control of content?
- I wonder when the MPRIAA will get their court documents to inspect my music and find out which ones don’t seem to have DRM?
Just some thoughts on the topic. I understand the price point. But you know, as you learn in life, not everything is about money.
I don’t mean to be captain obvious here, but if we’re storing all our data in the cloud and not buying giant hard drives, that would imply the cloud providers are buying even more giant hard drives to hold our data. The hard drive manufacturers are still making plenty of drives.
I also notice that most of us are discussing the cloud as a component of an overall data strategy, not a wholesale replacement. This sort of makes the rest of the “freak out” scenario moot.
@nigelpb said:
@hthighway said:
If I was starting over I would definitely consider thehosted routeas my only PMS.I could rent a dedicated server in a datacenter and subscribe to a cloud provider for unlimited storage and pay those fees for 5 years before I reached the amount I spent on my current hardware. And that doesn’t even take into consideration the cost of electricity.
Other than a slight delay when clicking play, the user experience when streaming from a setup like above is just like playing from a local server. Assuming you have decent bandwidth.
Plex Cloud is an even simpler & cheaper way of hosting your Plex Media Server off-site. I already have Plex Pass & G Suite for Business which gives me unlimited Google Drive storage so my Plex setup literally costs me nothing.
Plex Cloud is a no go for me; no encryption for resting files and it also has a 3 simultaneous transcode limit which isn’t enough for my neeeds
@hthighway said:
@nigelpb said:
@hthighway said:
If I was starting over I would definitely consider thehosted routeas my only PMS.I could rent a dedicated server in a datacenter and subscribe to a cloud provider for unlimited storage and pay those fees for 5 years before I reached the amount I spent on my current hardware. And that doesn’t even take into consideration the cost of electricity.
Other than a slight delay when clicking play, the user experience when streaming from a setup like above is just like playing from a local server. Assuming you have decent bandwidth.
Plex Cloud is an even simpler & cheaper way of hosting your Plex Media Server off-site. I already have Plex Pass & G Suite for Business which gives me unlimited Google Drive storage so my Plex setup literally costs me nothing.
Plex Cloud is a no go for me; no encryption for resting files and it also has a 3 simultaneous transcode limit which isn’t enough for my neeeds
It’s perfect for me. I couldn’t care less about encryption as Blur-ray rips & downloaded TV shows are not my personal files & as there’s only me & my partner then three simultaneous transcodes is more than enough.
The “cloud” is, and always has been, paying an ongoing extortion fee to store your stuff on someone else’s servers. Effectively: outsourcing your data. People were doing that long before some dipshit marketing person decided to come up with “the cloud” terminology.
Outsourcing is sold as being in your best interest but often is not. I don’t want my data to be at the whim of someone else. No one cares as much about your stuff as you do. Nor do I care to have other companies poking around my ■■■■.
I’ll self-host on my own hardware, thank you very much.
I’m sensing a lot of hostility. Happily as I haven’t invested a shitload of money in hardware I don’t need to justify my purchases by ranting about how awful it is use a better cheaper solution storing my stuff on someone else’s servers. In the context of Plex it’s not really my stuff or your stuff anyway as it’s mostly stolen copyright infringing material.
If you can’t stand in front of it with a gun and protect it, is it really yours?
Yep. Upload speeds and the cost are the main problems with the cloud. If I rip a blu-ray I want to be able to watch it straight away. I can’t do that with the cloud. It will take about a day to upload and I have good internet (100 Mbps cable).
@DarrenL81 said:
Yep. Upload speeds and the cost are the main problems with the cloud. If I rip a blu-ray I want to be able to watch it straight away. I can’t do that with the cloud. It will take about a day to upload and I have good internet (100 Mbps cable).
Something is wrong then. If you have 100Mbps up you should be able to upload almost 1TB per day which is 30+ full Blu-ray rips.
There are also alternative sources for Blu-ray rips already in the Cloud. There is no need to rip your own or download then upload you can copy straight to Google Drive from Offcloud or your own seedbox.
Like with all data. The data on a cloud will be compromised… Sooner or later.
Coud is the new Fief. Humanity 101.
