Would Someone Explain Why We Want or Care About Plex Cloud??

Hi
I am sure I am missing something obvious, but I do not understand why we would want to store our media libraries on the Amazon Cloud Service.

Thanks in advance for any light that you can shed on this subject and help me understand why I would want this.

  • It can act as a backup; backup of your media as well as a backup PMS
  • If you have limited upload bandwidth but want to share your PMS with your extended family a Cloud Based PMS will allow for this as it is not limited by a slow upload speed.
  • It allows for not having to incur the cost of building a PMS locally.

There are many more reasons, but if you do not see a need for it then you are free to not take advantage of the service when it’s made more available

Because it’s cool! Does there really need to be another reason?

Actually eliminating the need for any local server is important for many people but I am still quite unsure if Plex Cloud is a viable alternative for anybody. There are a plethora of major bugs/problems that do not seem to be addressed but there is still hope.

I have been running servers in the sky ,my own hardware in The DC, the car all over for many years .

a good one is the 79 USD per month dedicated box 9000 pass mark cpu and 8 Tb storage

My current project using my own paid cloud server over at OVH running Plex and nice unlimited 4G and battery power .
portable cinema

My Reason for use

  1. Travel a lot no really fixed address
  2. bandwidth use both speed and data
  3. cost of storage
  4. backup
  5. Do it your self
  6. just easy access to manage a cloud based server
  7. power bill

Would not use Plex supplied Cloud host

  1. lack of self management /root access
  2. encryption required
    3.Plex managed

Thanks so much for the info and advice and opinions.
I understand.

But is it practical for someone with 40tb of content in a library???

How long would it take for me to upload 40tb to the cloud?

What is the cost of 40tb Cloud Storage??

Does the PMS run on the cloud or does my PMS run locally just accessing the Library on the Cloud.

What happens if I lose Internet Access??

Does this mean I could install PMS on my Web Server? Runs Linux and I host about 12 production sites??

Could I run Apache on this Plex Cloud Box?

@Elijah_Baley
LOL As I Suspected… Just another Plex Gizmo taking from core business.

@jjrjr1 said:
But is it practical for someone with 40tb of content in a library???
Yes, because then you don’t care about maintaining local storage.

How long would it take for me to upload 40tb to the cloud?
About the same amount of time it took you to download and/or rip that amount.

What is the cost of 40tb Cloud Storage??
I believe unlimited storage is free if you have Prime subscription. Amazon is not doing it for altruistic reasons you know.

Does the PMS run on the cloud or does my PMS run locally just accessing the Library on the Cloud.
On the cloud.

What happens if I lose Internet Access??
You lose access to your media. Since the centralized login/multiple users support that’s what happens with your local PMS as well, unless you edit local PMS files to allow local access without internet.

Does this mean I could install PMS on my Web Server? Runs Linux and I host about 12 production sites??
PMS does not require a Web Server, it creates its own. You can install PMS on Debian/Ubuntu and CentOS/RHEL Linuxes no problem.

Could I run Apache on this Plex Cloud Box?
I seriously doubt it, but if you’re interested in cloud solutions, you may want to check out AWS/Google Cloud/Azure.

The major problem with any cloud service such is Amazon Prime is that they could change their TOS at any time. This could mean storage caps, bandwidth caps or throttling, etc…

Having 40GB of content that you could lose control over at any time is not a good feeling to have. I know this from first hand experience where I’ve lost over 60GB a pop at two different cloud services in a matter of minutes. Ironically Amazon Prime was one of them.

Use caution and make sure you have copies of all your media local just in case is the best advice I can give. Keep in mind as more people start to exploit Amazon for large media storage needs they will likely do something about this. To think that Amazon will dedicate 10+ drives to each of us over long periods of time is probably a bit naive.

@jjrjr1 said:
Thanks so much for the info and advice and opinions.
I understand.

But is it practical for someone with 40tb of content in a library???

That depends on your bandwidth, I’ve got a little over 50TB uploaded to ACD so far

How long would it take for me to upload 40tb to the cloud?

Again, that would depend on your bandwidth

What is the cost of 40tb Cloud Storage??

That depends on which provider you chose, Amazon Cloud Drive is $60 a year for unlimited storage

Does the PMS run on the cloud or does my PMS run locally just accessing the Library on the Cloud.

The new Plex Cloud runs in the cloud, but you can also run PMS locally and mount the cloud storage to look like local storage

What happens if I lose Internet Access??

The world would stop spinning, and you would lose access to any online content…

Does this mean I could install PMS on my Web Server? Runs Linux and I host about 12 production sites??

Sure, if that is what you want to do

Could I run Apache on this Plex Cloud Box?

No, assuming you mean the new Plex Cloud

My personal opinion: Cloud is probably not good for Plex users with a great number of users, a great need for tinkering with the settings, huge libraries, slow Internet or limited data caps. They probably already have a NAS at home with all the bells & whistles Cloud will more than likely never provide.

I think it will be ideal for people who are just starting with Plex, who already use Amazon as a backup for their files, or who want to use it for themselves or direct family without the need of a computer that is constantly on. I can’t wait for it to become stable enough to replace my home setup, which is just a computer with a few hard drives locked in a cupboard somewhere anyway.

@jjrjr1 said:
Thanks so much for the info and advice and opinions.
I understand.

But is it practical for someone with 40tb of content in a library???

Practical?? If your upload is good then yes. The upload is only needed for getting the files there in the first place BUT 40 tb would take a LONG time at the 3-6mbs many of us get at our best.

How long would it take for me to upload 40tb to the cloud?

It depends on upload speed but it looks like with my slow upload it will take about a year or so. I use “Goodsync” and it runs in the background so I intend to just let it run, and run and run and…

What is the cost of 40tb Cloud Storage??

Unlimited storage on Amazon Cloud (which is the only service that is currently supported) is $59.00/year if you have a Prime membership.

Does the PMS run on the cloud or does my PMS run locally just accessing the Library on the Cloud.

PMS for Plex Cloud runs in the cloud. It uses no local resources.

What happens if I lose Internet Access??

Plex Cloud would not work. Think of “Plex Cloud” kind of like Netflix for your content not theirs.

Does this mean I could install PMS on my Web Server? Runs Linux and I host about 12 production sites??

You do not install any PMS for Plex Cloud. The PMS servers are “installed” by Plex, you simply are granted access to point one at your content.

Could I run Apache on this Plex Cloud Box?

You have no access to or direct control over what runs on the Plex Cloud servers.

@Elijah_Baley
LOL As I Suspected… Just another Plex Gizmo taking from core business.

It actually “could” be much more than that. It “could” free users from any dependency on local hardware. But, right now it is much like the advanced “Lawmaster” from “Judge Dredd:”
"Yours… if you can ever get it to work. "

Right now it only works on “some” devices and has other problems but it “could” actually become quite the valuable addition to the Plex family or it “could” end up the “weird” Plex uncle that nobody talks about or invites to parties.