Very large files even after Handbrake-ing

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I have two very large movie files, even after having been processed in Handbrake. The files in question are around 20Gb each, even though they are black and white movies, and have only one stereo soundtrack.

The usual size I have are between 1 and 6Gb and in .m4v and .mp4 formats, and are from SD and HD sources. I have nothing out of the ordinary in terms of length and most have one 5.1 sound track. Why are is there such variability in files sizes? Is this an issue I should ask on Handbrake forums?

Thank you.

Adding to Trumpy


When you use Constant Quality file sizes can vary wildly.
One reason could be the film has a lot of grain in it and Handbrake will attempt to capture each grain dot and reproduce it perfectly. <—in a file about 20gigs
lol

Here you go - start here and adjust as necessary:

3750Kbps will give you sizes at about 1.5G per hour.
That rate in a 2 Pass encode - using my settings above is MORE than enough for most anything - certainly for Black and White.

Personally, 2650Kbps is plenty for me, but you’ll have to use the eyeballs in your head 'cause mine won’t work for you


:wink:

Gotcha.

What I would do is make some ‘previews’ at various rates.
I use 240 second previews to give me a few scenes to look at and time to look at them.

I’ll drop those in an Other Videos library to look at them on various devices in the Plexiverse to make sure everything is looking good - and Direct Playing.

I’m embroiled currently in busting 1080 TV Shows down to 480, using the lapsharp filter as described with a bit rate of 950Kbps (recent bump from 850Kbps - just 'cause) and I really can’t tell the difference in those and 720s - but my storage devices can.

My motto is:
When you’ve got a million of something - make 'em as small as you can.

Happy HBing.

:slight_smile:

Make the switch to Average Bit rate 2 Pass.
You’ll always know how big your files are going to be and you probably won’t see the difference - until you do 480s with the lapsharp that look better than their sources
 try a few of those on for size and be amazed.

This happens with movies/shows with a poor film to digital transfer and also with black and white films.

The Handbrake Denoise filter can help clean this up. I generally set it to NLMeans / Medium / None.

It does “soften” the picture. It is noticeable if you do a side-by-side comparison between having the filter enabled & not enabled. However, I find I don’t notice it when watching the movie on my TV (and nobody else notices it because they haven’t seen the comparison).

Enabling the filter kills throughput, so only use it as needed.

I run Handbrake on two different PCs, one has an i7-4790K (4c8t), and the other an AMD Ryzen 7-1800x (8c16t). For “normal” processing with Handbrake, the AMD is usually 2x - 4x faster than the Intel. With Denoise enabled, the throughput is the same.

Grain is a PITA, but here’s what I do about it
 nuthin’, except


It made me go to 2 Pass. Well, that and those little white caps in the intro of Little White Lies. Grain tends to dance a bit and those little white caps just don’t look right. Drove me batty for a while until 2 Pass cured it.

Not every grain-dot is faithfully represented, but they don’t dance. Those little white caps look just like they do in the source files
 woohoo.

As long as grain isn’t misbehaving - I don’t mind it. It’s the film stock. Some have it, some don’t.

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Thank you both for your incredible help! It gives me something useful to get stuck into this weekend.

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Well, that made a big difference; one file reduced from over 4Gb to less than 1. Thanks again.

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The questions are:
Are you happy with the way it looks?
Does it Direct Play on everything?

Thanks, I will check before I delete the large one.

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