@sremick said:
The “duh” heard 'round the world. Plenty of us saw this coming a mile away. $60/year for “unlimited” in a situation where people will try and shove tens of TERABYTES on it? Most of which will probably be pirated, copyright-infringing content with no encryption to hide it from Amazon to notice it violates not only their TOS but the law as well? And then somehow offload all the astronomical transcoding demand to another service (Microsoft’s Azure cloud) with no added cost to the user somehow? Really???
This was never a sane or sustainable business model with any real future. I cannot fathom what person at Plex thought it’d work.
Unlimited ACD for $60/year was an Amazon offering long before Plex Cloud and is still offered as part of Amazon’s business model; not Plex’s. It was apparently Amazon that couldn’t get ACD working as needed with their own server cloud infrastructure.
Unlimited ACD for $60/year was an Amazon offering long before Plex Cloud and is still offered as part of Amazon’s business model; not Plex’s. It was apparently Amazon that couldn’t get ACD working as needed with their own server cloud infrastructure.
Lesson #1: there’s no such thing as actual “unlimited”. Sometimes it’s the company offering it who doesn’t “get it”, sometimes it’s the customer who naively believes it, or fails to read the fine print.
Amazon’s ACD is meant for “typical” file storage, and they are lenient on capacity hard limits as long as you are fitting into this category. 40+ TB of pirated movies and TV shows is not the “typical” user ACD was designed for.
@sremick said:
The “duh” heard 'round the world. Plenty of us saw this coming a mile away. $60/year for “unlimited” in a situation where people will try and shove tens of TERABYTES on it? Most of which will probably be pirated, copyright-infringing content with no encryption to hide it from Amazon to notice it violates not only their TOS but the law as well? And then somehow offload all the astronomical transcoding demand to another service (Microsoft’s Azure cloud) with no added cost to the user somehow? Really???
This was never a sane or sustainable business model with any real future. I cannot fathom what person at Plex thought it’d work.
Amazon Cloud Drive, outside of Plex Cloud, still is an excellent product and can be used with a standard PMS install. It works just fine for me
And the whole point of the invite only beta was to see how it worked when it was scaled up.
Who you use Amazon Drive with Standard PMS can you give us more details,
After the amazon drive dropped from Plex Cloud i think they should make up and invite more peoples in the beta
Unlimited ACD for $60/year was an Amazon offering long before Plex Cloud and is still offered as part of Amazon’s business model; not Plex’s. It was apparently Amazon that couldn’t get ACD working as needed with their own server cloud infrastructure.
Lesson #1: there’s no such thing as actual “unlimited”. Sometimes it’s the company offering it who doesn’t “get it”, sometimes it’s the customer who naively believes it, or fails to read the fine print.
Amazon’s ACD is meant for “typical” file storage, and they are lenient on capacity hard limits as long as you are fitting into this category. 40+ TB of pirated movies and TV shows is not the “typical” user ACD was designed for.
Actually i think amazon drive is really unlimited
I saw one user in reddit have uploaded more than +200TB
So I really trust amazon drive more than MS onedrive
at least its cheap
There will be of course all sorts of practical limitations around using “unlimited” storage; chiefly one’s own upload/download Internet speeds.
I’d still like to see evidence that someone with unlimited ACD storage was notified by Amazon that they were “atypical” and couldn’t have any more space.
Amazon Cloud Drive, outside of Plex Cloud, still is an excellent product and can be used with a standard PMS install. It works just fine for me
Hi Hthighway, would it be possible to link me to something that shows how to use acd with a standard PMS install? I’ve added my acd account and authorized it on plex.tv, but when i go to sync something to it, it just says “There was a problem syncing this media… Please try again” i can sync to other devices just fine.
@dduke2104 said:
There will be of course all sorts of practical limitations around using “unlimited” storage; chiefly one’s own upload/download Internet speeds.
I’d still like to see evidence that someone with unlimited ACD storage was notified by Amazon that they were “atypical” and couldn’t have any more space.
This user have uploaded +615TB to amazon drive and have no problem with amazon
Check this
Linux users can use acd_cli and plex with optional encryption latest guide here
Windows users can use net drive or stablebit cloud drive
Just mount it and use plex as normal no guide really needed
However beware that Amazon is sensitive to large bandwidth usage so you may find your account locked if you share the server with many people and are doing lots of going bandwidth, incoming they don’t seem to care about
Windows users can use net drive or stablebit cloud drive
Just mount it and use plex as normal no guide really needed
However beware that Amazon is sensitive to large bandwidth usage so you may find your account locked if you share the server with many people and are doing lots of going bandwidth, incoming they don’t seem to care about
Great if this work than plex team should make it work
Windows users can use net drive or stablebit cloud drive
Just mount it and use plex as normal no guide really needed
However beware that Amazon is sensitive to large bandwidth usage so you may find your account locked if you share the server with many people and are doing lots of going bandwidth, incoming they don’t seem to care about
Great if this work than plex team should make it work
well the problem is that amazon api keys are now private so amazon can revoke your API key if they feel that your app uses too much of their resources. And given that the plex key is specifically for playing media on their servers and the plex scanner isn’t light on the server (devs should take a look at the emby scanner, much lighter weight) - so Amazon at any time can revoke their access if they feel their user base is too much. With the acd_cli on a linux box i’ve already been locked out three times with just sharing with my family and a few friends 5 people tops were actively using it.
The easy fix for plex cloud is to add webdav / owncloud / next cloud support.
So you setup a server that is connected to your Amazon Drive ( encrypted tbh ) and it trough webdav/owncloud/nextcloud with Plex Cloud.
p.s. We all know Plex Cloud wont be free even for paying customers and you can basically achieve better with 10$ VPS.
Windows users can use net drive or stablebit cloud drive
Just mount it and use plex as normal no guide really needed
However beware that Amazon is sensitive to large bandwidth usage so you may find your account locked if you share the server with many people and are doing lots of going bandwidth, incoming they don’t seem to care about
Great if this work than plex team should make it work
well the problem is that amazon api keys are now private so amazon can revoke your API key if they feel that your app uses too much of their resources. And given that the plex key is specifically for playing media on their servers and the plex scanner isn’t light on the server (devs should take a look at the emby scanner, much lighter weight) - so Amazon at any time can revoke their access if they feel their user base is too much. With the acd_cli on a linux box i’ve already been locked out three times with just sharing with my family and a few friends 5 people tops were actively using it.
You should not share with your friend when using the cloud
And how amazon unlock your account again ? Did you call them ?
@Ajki said:
The easy fix for plex cloud is to add webdav / owncloud / next cloud support.
So you setup a server that is connected to your Amazon Drive ( encrypted tbh ) and it trough webdav/owncloud/nextcloud with Plex Cloud.
p.s. We all know Plex Cloud wont be free even for paying customers and you can basically achieve better with 10$ VPS.
Who need Owncloud or next cloud they are both local server !
Thats not the point of plex cloud
Windows users can use net drive or stablebit cloud drive
Just mount it and use plex as normal no guide really needed
However beware that Amazon is sensitive to large bandwidth usage so you may find your account locked if you share the server with many people and are doing lots of going bandwidth, incoming they don’t seem to care about
Great if this work than plex team should make it work
well the problem is that amazon api keys are now private so amazon can revoke your API key if they feel that your app uses too much of their resources. And given that the plex key is specifically for playing media on their servers and the plex scanner isn’t light on the server (devs should take a look at the emby scanner, much lighter weight) - so Amazon at any time can revoke their access if they feel their user base is too much. With the acd_cli on a linux box i’ve already been locked out three times with just sharing with my family and a few friends 5 people tops were actively using it.
You should not share with your friend when using the cloud
And how amazon unlock your account again ? Did you call them ?
Yes I called had and the first two times they immediately unlocked it, the next time they made me wait around for like two weeks and never really gave me any good reason but did give me a $10 credit.
@martinbowling said:
Yes I called had and the first two times they immediately unlocked it, the next time they made me wait around for like two weeks and never really gave me any good reason but did give me a $10 credit.
I was blocked 4 times in last month, and only once I needed to call support twice to unblock it, mainly as operator had no clue how to unblock. If that happens just drop the call and call again you will get another operator.
@martinbowling said:
Yes I called had and the first two times they immediately unlocked it, the next time they made me wait around for like two weeks and never really gave me any good reason but did give me a $10 credit.
I was blocked 4 times in last month, and only once I needed to call support twice to unblock it, mainly as operator had no clue how to unblock. If that happens just drop the call and call again you will get another operator.
@Ajki said:
The easy fix for plex cloud is to add webdav / owncloud / next cloud support.
So you setup a server that is connected to your Amazon Drive ( encrypted tbh ) and it trough webdav/owncloud/nextcloud with Plex Cloud.
p.s. We all know Plex Cloud wont be free even for paying customers and you can basically achieve better with 10$ VPS.
Who need Owncloud or next cloud they are both local server !
Thats not the point of plex cloud
Who says they have to be local servers? It can be in a data-centre.
