Seriously when I adopted Plex forever ago it was always on lan. Now with hurricanes… isp playing games and smartv apps this dependency seems unavoidable.
Seriously is the LG… fire stick iOS and android apps all dependent? Because I spite trying the instructions on the hundreds of threads about this I can’t use ANY of them without a connection. I’m still at square one.
I would like a honest answer because after 10 years if I’m not undependent I’m gone forever.
I’ve already disabled secure connections… added my whole subnet to the exceptions on authencation anyway… provided network access to all apps to ensure these settings where fully updated on the client level… signed in and out on the server a bunch of times still no luck. This stinks!
Specifically the client needs a way to specify the server’s location directly, rather than getting it from the Plex mothership. Few clients have this, and none of the clients produced by Plex have it. Except the web app of course, any device that has a browser should be able to access your Plex server directly through the browser.
Otherwise, some Roku sticks still have that option, and Open PHT of course. I’m sure there’s others as well but I don’t know of any examples off hand. Your TV might have the option, just look through all the settings.
BTW you don’t need to disable secure connections, just adding your subnet to the auth exception list is enough.
Apparently I spoke too soon. The latest build 1.11.1.4730 snuck in a massive FU to anyone who wants to connect locally. It’s not mentioned in the change log but they seem to have completely disabled any connection that doesn’t pass through the mothership. Too much money to be made selling that data to allow people their privacy anymore I suppose.
I’ve reverted to 1.11.0.4666 and local connections seem to be working correctly again.
I don’t get it!!
The internet is needed only to allow Plex Pass capability??
Well tell me which Plex Pass feature even WORKS without internet…
DVR no… No Schedule Available
Plex Cloud no… Gotta access cloud.
Sync no… Gotta have Internet to sync to remote devices.
So why this crap of killing ALL functionality if no internet when nothing will work anyway???
Must be NO PLEX without letting u steal our private information…
This is truly messed up!!!
Let us access our local media when the internet is down…
Cord cutting… What a joke…
Hope you fix your deceptive advertising claiming you can cut the cord with plex!!!
Internet is needed because Plex wants to check your Plex Pass and - more important - to gather data about your viewing habits. That’s what Plex is REALLY after.
@“schwyl@gmail.com” said:
jfconde where can i get the older release
If you download the updates through PMS it stores the old ones under a folder called “Updates” next to its logs folder. The position of that depends on your OS.
Otherwise the current public download is still 1.10.1.4602 and jumping back to that would also restore correct operation.
Or if you act fast enough this link is still working (windows version):
The problem is not (just) that it’s client specific, but that if “Fast User Switching” is enabled that you need an Internet connection.
That’s what did us in. The Roku client doesn’t need Internet. It was fine just logging into the last user - but we couldn’t switch to the user that had the shows available we wanted to watch.
I really don’t understand why Plex needs to phone home to switch users and I have not found an explanation for it.
Luckily I had a PC and a ChromeCast ready, but it’s really sad how the Plex developers limit usability and tie into their cloud for no apparent reason
And we have a lifetime Plex pass - so it wouldn’t even need to confirm that it is still valid to use Plex Home
and this is confirmed… lets hope it was an ‘oversight’ on plex’s part.
on a fully working server install with all codecs downloaded, both official plex clients and openPHT fail to connect to the local server on the local subnet, even when manually specifying and address and port in manual server settings for the client. the web interface is equally unresponsive
this is UN-ACCEPTABLE
this is our media on OUR hardware…
if the internet is down due to an outage, storm etc, we should still be able to watch OUR content.
if I have a portable server that I take to a rental, boat, etc… it must work without internet connectivity…
I hate to say it but Plex doesn’t work very well offline. More and more features require the Internet to function.
If you require a media server that can run offline for extended times Plex isn’t the media server for you. The DVR or Live TV in Plex is useless without an internet connection as you would have no guide even if everything else worked.
“Cutting the cord” doesn’t mean cutting both the internet and TV cord. It’s specific to cutting the TV cord. Easier said then done in a lot of markets since many ISP almost force you into a bundle price wise. Even the entry level TV service they push as part of the bundle is often the same channels you can get OTA (hmm, wonder why?).
With that said Plex can help you save a lot of money. In my Comcast area I basically get a bundled service for the same price as just internet but it only includes local SD content. If I want HD it’s another $10 a month. If I want DVR it’s another $10 or $15 a month. If I want to record myself or use Plex or similar DVR it’s $10 per Cable Card.
With 2 Primes for me that’s $10+$10+$10+$10=$40/month to be able to record HD shows that are also the same channels as OTA. Switch to OTA and a Quattro device or two and I’m saving $40 a month minimum and have much better features then I would through Comcast.
So maybe you can argue the “cut the cord” marketing thing is a bit of a gimmick in many markets but the savings sure can be there.
I have been here since the beginning and it use to work FINE.
it only needs (needed) connection to the internet when adding new conted to fetch meta but once in the library and tagged up… it use to work fine… I had on in my SUV for long road trips to keep the kids at bay and it worked FINE…
its only after Plex’s deliberate and ongoing effort to take it more ‘online and connected to Plex’s online cash stream’ through the collection of user data has it become less and less usable … and now complete unusable.
I totally agree with you. I used to use Plex in a few off grid type situations and don’t do this anymore. I had installations in cabins, RVs, cars and even private planes. I no longer use Plex to do this because of it’s inability to work offline well in these types of environments.
However for the typical home environment where you usually have Internet access except for outages it’s still the best overall solution.
I don’t think Plex made any changes on purpose lately to force the authentication requests some are seeing. I know they are looking into it.
@cayars said:
I don’t think Plex made any changes on purpose lately to force the authentication requests some are seeing. I know they are looking into it.
Carlo
Why is it necessary to think? Just spin up an instance of the latest beta and try it, the differences are obvious.
