Hi everyone,
So today my home experienced an Internet outage when a construction crew hit a line. Wouldn't of cared so much, except I learned that PLEX is dependent on Internet access to run.
I have a Synology that run PLEX and all my content is local.
Is there a way to operate PLEX when the Internet fails? Or should I begin looking at other alternatives?
it is dependent on internet for authentication. so you need to disable it while your internet is down. you should just need to disable Require auth on local networks, my internet has gone down many times and it was all i needed to do.
if you are using the web app to view you need to access it locally via :32400/web rather than going to plex.tv/web
if you are using PHT you can enter the IP of server computer in network settings to help it find the server if it has trouble discovering it locally
Generally plex doesnt need internet to function once it's up and running, however if you had a client that was turned off and had no cached credentials then you would experience this problem. One way around it is if you havent setup plex home yet (not plex home theater) you can add in IP's of local machines that can access regardless of authentication status. I did this with my mac mini myself for the same reason.
Thanks guy's I try the things suggested when I get some free time.
Won't the plex home thing kill Playz? I heard Playz does not like it. A little confused here so I have not messed around with anything.
Thanks guy's I try the things suggested when I get some free time.
Won't the plex home thing kill Playz? I heard Playz does not like it. A little confused here so I have not messed around with anything.
Playz and also LG Media Link / Smartshare have no capability of signing in to plex.tv and as such would not work with a Plex Media Server that requires authentication,
Extract from the support page: Consequences of being in a PlexHome:
I have a question that is right up this alley, but with a different element.
I run Plex on my Synology NAS (DS412+) using a Roku3 to access my media on the big screen in the living room. I love this setup and it works very well, so well that I want to duplicate what I have at the deer camp in my RV. The camp is far away from internet access and only spotty reception via my mobile phone and using the internet on my phone out there is very slow (not even 3g) and is unreliable causing me to walk around searching for bars. Is there a way to set all of this up at home with an internet connection and then break it all down, pack it up and move it to the camp and connect it all back up and have it work to access the media on the NAS? We run the RV off a hybrid solar/generator/vehicle setup for electricity. I’m a master electrician and electrical contractor and also provide network wiring and I am reasonably familiar with servers, network switches, network cabling and other things IT (a service I provide for clients). When we are not there the system is powered down with minimal battery charging from the solar array.
So, will it work or am I going to have to look for another solution?
If you set the roku up at this location and move then it would only work if the network setup for the roku is valid for the other location as well. This is because Network Setup for the Roku itself (not Plex - but the Roku) has a number of steps and the last one is checking internet connection and it does not save the network setting until it succeeds with the last step - internet connectivity. If you get round that then it should be possible for the Roku Plex app to find the server on the same network using GDM and also in latest Plex for Roku product there is a setting for entering the Plex Media Server IP manually - also setting to allow you to always use normal http non SSL connections - thus not having a need to access plex.tv
The way i set up a roku at a holiday home with no internet was to use my 3G iphone connection as a hot spot for the local client router i put in and enabled internet access temporarily through the phone network
@sa2000 said:
If you set the roku up at this location and move then it would only work if the network setup for the roku is valid for the other location as well. This is because Network Setup for the Roku itself (not Plex - but the Roku) has a number of steps and the last one is checking internet connection and it does not save the network setting until it succeeds with the last step - internet connectivity. If you get round that then it should be possible for the Roku Plex app to find the server on the same network using GDM and also in latest Plex for Roku product there is a setting for entering the Plex Media Server IP manually - also setting to allow you to always use normal http non SSL connections - thus not having a need to access plex.tvThe way i set up a roku at a holiday home with no internet was to use my 3G iphone connection as a hot spot for the local client router i put in and enabled internet access temporarily through the phone network
Ok, so if I have the Router (Netgear Nighthawk R8000) at the house and connected with the system and configure it all to work properly and then move it all along with the router to the RV. Would that be the solution or will I still have to make some technical changes to the routers configuration?
@Talmadge said:
@sa2000 said:
If you set the roku up at this location and move then it would only work if the network setup for the roku is valid for the other location as well. This is because Network Setup for the Roku itself (not Plex - but the Roku) has a number of steps and the last one is checking internet connection and it does not save the network setting until it succeeds with the last step - internet connectivity. If you get round that then it should be possible for the Roku Plex app to find the server on the same network using GDM and also in latest Plex for Roku product there is a setting for entering the Plex Media Server IP manually - also setting to allow you to always use normal http non SSL connections - thus not having a need to access plex.tvThe way i set up a roku at a holiday home with no internet was to use my 3G iphone connection as a hot spot for the local client router i put in and enabled internet access temporarily through the phone network
Ok, so if I have the Router (Netgear Nighthawk R8000) at the house and connected with the system and configure it all to work properly and then move it all along with the router to the RV. Would that be the solution or will I still have to make some technical changes to the routers configuration?
If it is the same network setup - ie remains wired ethernet or remains wireless and connects to the same router then the roku setup would probably be ok - however if you ever need to reset the roku to factory defaults or if ever it loses its configuration for some reason - an internet connection will be needed to setup the network settings again. I actually have a router as well as a client router (TP-LINK TL-WR843ND) in my holiday place and the client router gives my local network internet connectivity through my iPhone when i really need it
But you should always do a proof of concept testing before you make the actual move
I just don’t want to buy all the equipment and find out that it won’t work. I’m reasonably tech savvy, but I’m not a guru. It normally takes some research on my part just to set up VPNs, proxys, parental controls and the like on the router. I have always had difficulty setting things up on a wireless network and generally use software to make the changes for me like Netgear’s Genie or Cisco’s Network Magic. I can’t say that I fully grasp the nuances of SSL, GDM UPnP and DCHP. I generally have to find something online to guide me.
@sa2000 said:
If it is the same network setup - ie remains wired ethernet or remains wireless and connects to the same router then the roku setup would probably be ok - however if you ever need to reset the roku to factory defaults or if ever it loses its configuration for some reason - an internet connection will be needed to setup the network settings again. I actually have a router as well as a client router (TP-LINK TL-WR843ND) in my holiday place and the client router gives my local network internet connectivity through my iPhone when i really need it
But you should always do a proof of concept testing before you make the actual move
Thank you, that is easily understandable. The Roku3 and NAS will be connected to the router or network switch via CAT6 cables. I will probably look into putting a booster for my phone out there just as I had to do at the house because the metal roof and radiant barrier create a Faraday cage around my house. I installed a Yagi antenna on a 30 foot pole and pointed it at the nearest cell tower and routed the signal through RG6 to a Wilson booster and secondary panel antenna in the house. That solved the bad reception problem in the house and maybe it will do the same at the camp.
Again thank you for your help, it is greatly appreciated.
Until then, I’ll just have to play videos from my laptop using an HDMI cable to the TV.
If it is the same network setup - ie remains wired ethernet or remains wireless and connects to the same router then the roku setup would probably be ok - however if you ever need to reset the roku to factory defaults or if ever it loses its configuration for some reason - an internet connection will be needed to setup the network settings again. I actually have a router as well as a client router (TP-LINK TL-WR843ND) in my holiday place and the client router gives my local network internet connectivity through my iPhone when i really need it
But you should always do a proof of concept testing before you make the actual move
I will probably look into putting a booster for my phone out there just as I had to do at the house because the metal roof and radiant barrier create a Faraday cage around my house. I installed a Yagi antenna on a 30 foot pole and pointed it at the nearest cell tower and routed the signal through RG6 to a Wilson booster and secondary panel antenna in the house. That solved the bad reception problem in the house and maybe it will do the same at the camp.
Actually i put a 3G Amplifier aerial as well !
I’ve also been having this issue to. Whenever my internet connection goes down, I cannot access Plex. Even if I access it by typing my IP into the web browser. It’s like its dependent on something.
Nothing works, my Plex Media Player app doesn’t work either or my Plex apps on my iPhone, iPad or TV. How exactly can I fix this once and for all, so that Plex doesn’t require an internet connection to be accessible from within my home network?
@chihuahuaz said:
I’ve also been having this issue to. Whenever my internet connection goes down, I cannot access Plex. Even if I access it by typing my IP into the web browser. It’s like its dependent on something.Nothing works, my Plex Media Player app doesn’t work either or my Plex apps on my iPhone, iPad or TV. How exactly can I fix this once and for all, so that Plex doesn’t require an internet connection to be accessible from within my home network?
If the server is signed in to plex.tv (within settings / server / general) then as from 1.1.x of Plex Media Server, all clients need to authenticate. See Release Notice
http://forums.plex.tv/discussion/comment/1244304/#Comment_1244304
IMPORTANT: With the security changes in version 1.1.0, if your Plex Media Server is signed in to a plex.tv account, then all of the apps you use must also be signed-in. If you use older apps that cannot authenticate (e.g. LG’s MediaLink or SmartShare apps), you can add the IP address of the device to the following advanced preference: Settings > Server > Network > List of IP addresses and networks that are allowed without auth. (We strongly encourage apps to be signed in for improved security and enhanced functionality.)
Client apps do cache the credentials and so if internet goes, you should be able to continue to access the server - in case of the web client app, the local storage info held by the browser is browser dependent and also for the url used. eg for local IP access via chrome would have the info held through cookies in local storage in browser so next time it is used it already knows about the server and can authenticate even if internet is down. If this is not the case, we would need it flagged to development and investigated
@sa2000 said:
@chihuahuaz said:
I’ve also been having this issue to. Whenever my internet connection goes down, I cannot access Plex. Even if I access it by typing my IP into the web browser. It’s like its dependent on something.Nothing works, my Plex Media Player app doesn’t work either or my Plex apps on my iPhone, iPad or TV. How exactly can I fix this once and for all, so that Plex doesn’t require an internet connection to be accessible from within my home network?
If the server is signed in to plex.tv (within settings / server / general) then as from 1.1.x of Plex Media Server, all clients need to authenticate. See Release Notice
http://forums.plex.tv/discussion/comment/1244304/#Comment_1244304IMPORTANT: With the security changes in version 1.1.0, if your Plex Media Server is signed in to a plex.tv account, then all of the apps you use must also be signed-in. If you use older apps that cannot authenticate (e.g. LG’s MediaLink or SmartShare apps), you can add the IP address of the device to the following advanced preference: Settings > Server > Network > List of IP addresses and networks that are allowed without auth. (We strongly encourage apps to be signed in for improved security and enhanced functionality.)
Client apps do cache the credentials and so if internet goes, you should be able to continue to access the server - in case of the web client app, the local storage info held by the browser is browser dependent and also for the url used. eg for local IP access via chrome would have the info held through cookies in local storage in browser so next time it is used it already knows about the server and can authenticate even if internet is down. If this is not the case, we would need it flagged to development and investigated
I was recently down “Internet connection” for 10 days and could not connect.At this point i have now installed Universal media server as DLNA backup. Works but is not a pretty UI. So I’m not sure were I’m going wrong with the plex set up as per signature below.
If anyone knows please reply
@Gdr56 said:
@sa2000 said:
@chihuahuaz said:
I’ve also been having this issue to. Whenever my internet connection goes down, I cannot access Plex. Even if I access it by typing my IP into the web browser. It’s like its dependent on something.Nothing works, my Plex Media Player app doesn’t work either or my Plex apps on my iPhone, iPad or TV. How exactly can I fix this once and for all, so that Plex doesn’t require an internet connection to be accessible from within my home network?
If the server is signed in to plex.tv (within settings / server / general) then as from 1.1.x of Plex Media Server, all clients need to authenticate. See Release Notice
http://forums.plex.tv/discussion/comment/1244304/#Comment_1244304IMPORTANT: With the security changes in version 1.1.0, if your Plex Media Server is signed in to a plex.tv account, then all of the apps you use must also be signed-in. If you use older apps that cannot authenticate (e.g. LG’s MediaLink or SmartShare apps), you can add the IP address of the device to the following advanced preference: Settings > Server > Network > List of IP addresses and networks that are allowed without auth. (We strongly encourage apps to be signed in for improved security and enhanced functionality.)
Client apps do cache the credentials and so if internet goes, you should be able to continue to access the server - in case of the web client app, the local storage info held by the browser is browser dependent and also for the url used. eg for local IP access via chrome would have the info held through cookies in local storage in browser so next time it is used it already knows about the server and can authenticate even if internet is down. If this is not the case, we would need it flagged to development and investigated
I was recently down “Internet connection” for 10 days and could not connect.At this point i have now installed Universal media server as DLNA backup. Works but is not a pretty UI. So I’m not sure were I’m going wrong with the plex set up as per signature below.
If anyone knows please reply
Plex clients do some caching of credentials and connections routes but for managed users for Plex Home, user switching, secure connections, there would be need for DNS and for access to plex.tv. On the server itself, if credentials for http://localhost:32400/web get cached then when you lose internet, you could connect this way and disable secure connections in server / network settings. Then not having DNS available for translating plex.direct secure connections urls would no longer be an issue.
Ok, i already have disabled secure connections all the time.
I don’t use remote access, or should i say. Have not done so, yet.
So if i understand you correctly, i should not have a issue with my client finding my server. My current setup seems to work pretty good except for internet outage and content control transparencies on my LG client. But that’s another discussion
@Gdr56 said:
Ok, i already have disabled secure connections all the time.
I don’t use remote access, or should i say. Have not done so, yet.So if i understand you correctly, i should not have a issue with my client finding my server. My current setup seems to work pretty good except for internet outage and content control transparencies on my LG client. But that’s another discussion
Plex for Smart TV for the LG gets loaded from the internet so that does mean some apps do need the internet.
So for other clients and with secure connections disabled and server itself signed out from plex.tv (settings / server / general ) and no Plex Home / Managed users then it should be ok.
Ok ,got it… will try a dry run soon and let you Know.
cheers
