Thanks for the correction. Yes, AT&T is trying to be the everything (pipes and content).
Amazon’s move with MGM is huge too.
This is one of the main reasons I have invested into owning my own content. I really hate being a pawn to these companies and their crazy subs and hoop jumping.
When I realized that a $50/month sub(s) for 50 years is $30,000 it started to make sense to invest into my own content. This is content I can pass down to my family and share with my friends.
Goodwill, garage sales and ebay are great places to get content cheaply.
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Additionally, it’s been confirmed that any libraries using third party agents or even using the Personal Media agents won’t be able to link to the Watchlist, which solely alienates OUR own media being more useful to US. Watchlist was strictly created for the usage of Plex agents going forward as it uses it very own infrastructure against whatever is identified by their ID’s and OUR own media is rendered to be unusable to this feature.
That also further confirms that OUR servers aren’t ours anymore. Perhaps never were.
so this was always the case right? watchlist is fairly new to me at least. i noticed it first in plex movies & tv. never noticed it on personal content until now with discover. so business as usual if you used other agents.
The only reason I felt okay adopting Plex was the fact that they don’t touch my content. I can dump Plex without losing my content (though I wish they had Emby’s method of saving posters).
If I have to, I can set up Windows shares to PCs that are hooked up to my TVs. I can even offer FTP services to my friends for streaming there too. No reason to invest into any streaming engines.
As fiber becomes more the standard internet speed, we all will have LAN connections to each other. It really changes the game.
you sir have some lucky users.
Oh, I don’t have fiber yet but it is getting closer.
NO. There never WAS a watch list.
Playlist, Smart playlists and Queue were the ONLY way to list video items, organize, and play them before Collections were introduced.
We were missing a component to Plex to quickly add a video or film for easy access. Many of us made our own Playlist named Watchlist to combat that issue but there was no automation involved.
That was solved kinda with Smart Playlists but then we had to actually go in and create our own parameters.
The definition and implementation of Watchlist to Plex is different than mine.
Why isn’t discover.provider.plex.tv simply shutdown until the code fix can be tested and rolled out?
ok yeah that’s what i thought. so them adding a proprietary watchlist is of no impact to your content as is, is what i was getting at.
bweezy is referring to the Movies & Shows on Plex section – and yes, this did have a watchlist for quite some time (not sure if it was part of that scope from day one, but it goes back a long time).
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FYI when I blocked discover.provider.plex.tv at my firewall … I was unable to get to my locally hosted plex server via plex.tv/web … my cloud server was still there. Once I turned off the block, my server showed back up on plex.tv/web instantly. Your mileage may vary.
Oh that’s good to know. But you’re still able to access the server directly, just not at plex.tv/web?
Correct, I can get there via my local IP just fine (and discovery stuff is always gone in that case), just not routed through plex.tv/web.
I suspect discovery.provider.plex.tv does more than just power the Discover feature.
I’m not seeing the same behavior, oddly.
what if you hit app.plex.tv directly?
It was said, somewhere in the comments way back by Plex Employees that pretty much MORE WAS TO COME, DONT WORRY.
Hyping up that Watchlist would be included for our media in our own libraries, which yes, that’s true but Plex also has taken it upon themselves to rule out anything not catered to their own newly and so called powerful, advanced Plex Agents.
Again, DETAILS were forbidden from us how that was going to work or IF additional features were being looked at. Correction, I was under the impression that Plex Watchlist WAS NOT, solely on it’s own, going to alienate my media. Again, I was hoping that while searching for something to watch in the moment, found another tv show, movie, tutorial, music video, basically how the infinite YouTube watchlist works, that’s exactly how I invisioned the Plex Watchlist to work, too. Discover and Watchlist most certainly should have ALSO included AI that indexed the current metadata in our own media and include that into those hubs.
It’s pretty wild that Plex would now make our very own media fully secondary.
And apologists doubling down by saying oh well, all you have to do is type your media in the search to solve that issue, just down right dismisses the real issues. And I most certainly don’t know why my take on this is being subjected to criticism when Plex are the developers behind their own SERVER application. We have all been at the mercy of whatever it was Plex implementing, despite numerous threads of criticism and concerns prior to the launch of Plex Movies and TV shows, the streaming aspect of Plex.
i disagree with this statement. i mean you as an admin control what appears on “home” in the apps and selecting your movie or tv library only shows your content and no discover content. now search does produce external content, but in my testing my content and another server i have access to are always the first 2 options. but i cannot speak for every use case.
You need to relax a bit.
My post was a direct response to your feedback that there’s never been a watchlist
Turning every simple statement into a battle isn’t healthy. Neither is attacking other users as apologists for not disliking the new features or how they’ve been rolled out the same as you. That doesn’t make your point less valid… you’re just making it much harder for others to see.
Replace me with with another user who absolutely agrees, it’s makes the decision to end my customer relationship with Plex so much easier.
You guys ask for feedback, we give feedback. You guys ask for civility, we gave you that. This was and should be the straw that broke the camels back. What are you not understanding?
Eradication of deleting comments and banning customers does nothing to save Plex’s image here. This has always been a concern for what happens inside the closed doors of Plex.
Plex has turned too big for its own good. Apple-esque.
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OK, so I just caught up on all the posts since I went to bed (AU). A hundred or so
Solution at first was to uninstall client apps and reinstall and opt out.
Didn’t work as opt out was actually just unpinning Discover.
A second poll was started in this thread but then Chuck got reminded about the first poll with more than 600 votes.
We are now waiting for further action.
Did I miss anything else ?
