Apple Player Update Beta Testing - Archive

To add, AppleTV 4K PGS subtitles are okay size wise, but are often too low on the screen and almost cut off.

SRT subs now respect system settings for size and background on both experimental and old players, and placement looks good on them.

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On AppleTV HD the experimental player is now showing the same stutter and catch up issue with h264 media, similar to the issue HEVC media. Old Player seems to be fine with h264 media.

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I haven’t seen this behavior before. But it does seem odd.
If you could DM me the steps to reproduce I can put it on my list.

Should have gotten another invite or notification from TestFlight.
DM me if you’re not seeing anything

@dklein
To answer a few of your post:
I agree, using AVPlayer for older devices like the Apple TV HD should be our default. We have a few other caveats like that in the codebase and I’ll look at supporting certain restrictions like you outlined.

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@Craig_Holliday Are there any chances to include me in a testflight? I have two Apple TVs 2022, one connected to TV and HomePods (the worst setup for Plex :confused: ) and second connected to Epson LS12000 laser projector. I run my own PMS with HDHomeRun and have enough issues that I would gladly like to contribute in trying to squash them.

It’s Atmos EAC3 support we are asking for. It’s supported on the ATV and Infuse plays it fine.

We realise that TrueHD Atmos won’t be a thing unless Apple ever support bit streaming.

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Hi @Craig_Holliday, just out of curiosity, does the experimental player use Metal for decoding?

Thanks! That worked, appreciate it

EAC3 Atmos and full multichannel Spatial Audio on the AppleTVs would be great (we’ve got multichannel spatial on the iOS side with the last few betas).

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@Craig_Holliday

Seems as though the resolution of my videos are effecting the size of the subtitles.

1080p look closer to the size I’ve set in my settings (though still bigger than the official mpv build) and 4K videos subs look about twice the size.

This is with both mov_text and srt subs.

Does time shift work for anyone with the beta builds? I am unable to rewind live tv with the experimental player. It just defaults to live playback regardless to how I try to rewind.

Audio questions. I’m running the 8.41 (9408) release for ATV, which has the Experimental Player, and am wondering if there is any difference in audio handling/features for movies/video vs music files. A bit more background on why I’m asking…

  • I have several .mp4 files which are music, but Plex (Server) will only recognize them as video files. Probably something to do with their metadata? Anyway, they play and I’m getting multichannel audio (they’re actually EAC3 Atmos files, but they seem to be folded down correctly to 7.1).
  • The above got me wondering if (assuming I was able to get Plex to recognize them as music files) they would sound any different (i.e., is audio played any differently from a “music” file).
  • Related to the above, is there any documentation on how Plex distinguishes/recognizes a music file from a video file (e.g., metadata “rules”)? Even if the audio handling is the same, I kind of want these files to be recognized/organized as music rather than video.

Try renaming the file from mp4 to m4a. Plex may be just going off the extension but an m4a is just an audio file wrapped in mpeg4 container.

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Thanks! The results are interesting. Changing the file extension to .m4a allows the file to be recognized as music. But, it only plays in stereo. (When treated as a video, it plays in 7.1. So I guess that also answers the question of whether audio is treated differently. Unless perhaps there is something else that can be tweaked to make it play multichannel as a music file.)

It works perfectly, you must have Click and Touch enabled. Produce the Timeline, click the Clickpad to create a Vertical Bar ( l ), scroll right or left to << or >>. Click the Clickpad to resume.

Apple TV settings / Remote / ClickPad / Click and Touch. I also find Tracking is best at Medium

I have click and touch enabled. It works perfectly fine with the release version. With the experimental player it just jumps back to live when I try to rewind.

When you click the Progress line, does a extended Vertical bar appear? Then you scroll left or right on the clickpad. If that does not help try Resetting your Remote.

If you use MediaInfo to examine the file, how many channels show for the audio track?

I know how to rewind. It just doesn’t work on this build when using live tv.