BUG: Premium Music not matching properly

I will blow up my library and recreate it with those settings l. I am getting the proper gente on the album but not on the artist

Glad it worked.

Now, maybe with whatever influence you might have or can muster, can we get rid of the need to re-scan the whole library whenever a new item is added or changed? Yeah, I’m dreamin’, I know

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definitely should be possible (but aint) >>> rescan local metadata without forcing a rescan/rematch of online metadata.

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my albums are coming in properly tag but the artist genre does not for some of them.

still scanning my library will report back back when it is done

I don’t have a huge library, about a 1000 artists and about 2500 albums. Obviously, I haven’t checked them all, but the random 50 or 60 I checked were all as I expected/wanted. That was just a complete refresh of the existing library with the new settings.

Rather than blowing up existing libraries,

Create Music2 and retest in a side-by-side comparison

With some experimenting with a test library, I can provide a little info why you were told not to use it.

It works for MP3’s and OGG files, but doesn’t work for FLAC or M4A files.

FLAC files will use the genre in the embedded tags and apply those to the album, but the Artist will have no genres at all. M4A files will not use the embedded genres for anything, both albums and artist will be genre-less. :frowning_face: :thinking:

I can foresee the final fix, unfortunately, will be to pick the lowest common denominator, and no files will recognize embedded genre tags for anything, and we’ll be forced to use the genres supplied by AllMusic. It doesn’t look like Plex uses the genres that MusicBrainz has for albums or artists at all.

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aha… and of course all my files are FLAC, no wonder the damn thing is not working properly. then again PLex wants to cater to all music lovers so this seems like an omission on their part

I’m not a programmer, but it would seem that whatever logic is used to extract the genres from the embedded metadata from an MP3 or OGG, apply that to the album, and then send the genres to the artist should be a similar (if not exact) procedure for FLAC files.

In fact, I think both flac and ogg use VorbisComment for the embedded tags, so I’m kinda surprised one works and the other doesn’t.

Why M4A files don’t work at all is beyond me, and I don’t really care. I had to make some fake ones with ffmpeg to test, and perhaps they are not legitimate. MP3Tag reads the files just fine though, but MusicBrainz Picard doesn’t pick up the genre info.

Correction: Plex will read the metadata on an M4A file if I use Picard to tag. Only one genre per track. Maybe that’s a limitation of the format… In any event, the genre trickles back up to the artist with Picard generated metadata.

plex should work like every other music program on earth, and use the genre’s that are in each track, regardless of file type.

album genre’s can then be generated by the genres in the tracks
artists genre’s can then be generated by the genres in the albums and/or tracks

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I don’t understand why Plex is album based for almost everything music. I’ve never looked, but I’m not aware of an ā€œArtist Genreā€ or ā€œAlbum Genreā€ tagging software, or any common tagging software that even has those as an option. All tagging is done on tracks.

Er, well, at least that’s how I’ve done it for the last hundred years or so.

@beckfield is a big music guy, with a ton of suggestions for improving Plex metadata, maybe he’s aware of an ā€œArtist Genreā€ and ā€œAlbum Genreā€ tag.

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One moment there please.

I have a large number of FLAC and have no issues.

I do have it perfectly curated through MusicBrainz Picard.

Better luck than me. Just re-did the Bonnie Raitt album, ā€œStreetlightsā€ with Picard. (again), matched to a release from MusicBrainz (https://musicbrainz.org/release/465c3362-6fd6-4c97-8ddd-1bfbc6fe2200)

Refreshed metadata, fixed match on both album and artist, refreshed the browser page, just in case, and Bonnie Raitt is genre-less. The album does have a genre. In fact, I can change the genre in Picard, or MP3Tag, and Plex reflects that, but only for the album.

Most FLAC (that I have checked) seems to be pulling most tags for me.

mp3’s on the other hand, not so much.

Maybe it’s OS dependent, I dunno, but genres for artist are picked up from the tracks within an album for MP3 every time for me. Flac files always get the album right from the embedded tags, but don’t care about the artist genre. Other files are hit and miss, but I really am only using them on my test library.

I’m using Windows, if that makes any difference.

could be, im on linux

Another experiment. Plex danced with Bonnie (tags from Picard). She remained genre-less.


I then added her album, ā€œLuck of the Drawā€ in MP3 format (matched and tagged with Picard)

I did change half of the tracks to the genre of ā€œComedyā€ and the remaining to ā€œJazzā€
Bonnie Riatt now has a genre, but only from the second album.

I’m attaching the logs, in case there’s anything there that will help fix this peculiar glitch.

EDIT: heh, heh – forgive me, 60+ year olds are easily distracted by almost anything. Here are the aforementioned logs, downloaded immediately after the the 2nd album was scanned and added to the library.
Plex Media Server Logs_2019-10-25_11-57-38.zip (5.5 MB)

Here is Bonnie Raitt in my ā€œrealā€ music library, (all mp3 file format and several more albums) which is:

(yes, I did change some genre tags, to suit my preference – it is my prerogative,right?)

We’re looking at another, seeming related, issue already.

Give us a to pull both together? We’re running down what looks like the issue but want to make sure.

If we can confirm, I’ll have a workaround while getting corrected.

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