right now we have over the air which we pay for but we once had cable and it worked then too
FYI in the UK TVs enable direct recording to USB. It’s called FreeView.
This feature is disabled on the same TVs sold in most countries.
Learn something new everyday. I had to google this and found:
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/focus.php?subaction=showfull&id=1309266060
While that’s cool and all it’s still also very basic. Besides the EPG part of it, the saving of the file is quite easy. Not to get to far off course here but if you have an HDHomeRun and know the channel you want to record and the duration you can save files to disc easily as well with a command such as:
Linux/Unix like OS:
Format:
curl http://ip:5004/auto/v?duration=seconds -o
Example:
curl http://192.168.0.100:5004/auto/v2.1?duration=1800 -o test.ts
Windows:
Format:
Invoke-WebRequest http://ip:5004/auto/v?duration=30 -OutFile
Example:
Invoke-WebRequest http://192.168.0.100:5004/auto/v2.1?duration=1800 -OutFile test.ts
This creates a “dump” of exactly what’s on that channel.
Filename could/should be the full path to where you want to save to (or will be put int he directory you run the command from. 1800 is 30 minutes of recording (60 seconds times 30 minutes).
If you ever need to manually record something that’s not in the EPG the commands above will work. Changing the duration to 30 and running that with the proper channel number is a great way to create a small test file as well if you ever find some weirdness with a particular show and want to forward it to the devs.
If you have an HDHomeRun Prime you could run a similar command 3 times and record three different shows/movies that way as well.
That won’t work for tuners other than HDHomeRun with http support but there are other ways to record from them as well, just not quite as simple.
Have you try
https://www.plex.tv/contact/?option=plex-pass-billing
No i haven’t - this is basic functionality and should work OOB.
I am now using my £30 nexbox a95x as a TVHeadend server - DVR to my NAS - LiveTV via (Android Live Channels + TVHeadend app) on NVidia Shield TV. All is working well, I am no longer missing the Winter Olympics because of Plex’s failure to record anything.
The only reason I went Plex is because NVidia, Plex and Haupppauge got together and blocked access to the USB tuner drivers for all other apps except for Plex and I didn’t want to run another box for LiveTV hence paying for PlexPass.
I no longer have the need for Plex - if they ever sort out LiveTV and DVR on NVidia Shield TV then I will think about running Plex again. - currently I see no benefits to Plex and it causes a world of pain just to watch TV!
@cayars said:
Learn something new everyday. I had to google this and found:
<div class="billede"><img src="pictures/mini-usboptagelse.jpg" alt="How to record TV shows"></div>Guide: How to record TV shows on your HDTV - FlatpanelsHD
No idea either! So it seems that they made these TV’s for 2 years only in 2010-2011 and ONLY in the UK. Explains why I’ve never heard of it.
While that’s cool and all it’s still also very basic. Besides the EPG part of it, the saving of the file is quite easy. Not to get to far off course here but if you have an HDHomeRun and know the channel you want to record and the duration you can save files to disc easily as well with a command such as:
Linux/Unix like OS:
Format:
curl http://:5004/auto/v?duration=seconds -o
Example:
curl http://192.168.0.100:5004/auto/v2.1?duration=1800 -o test.tsWindows:
Format:
Invoke-WebRequest http://:5004/auto/v?duration=30 -OutFile
Example:
Invoke-WebRequest http://192.168.0.100:5004/auto/v2.1?duration=1800 -OutFile test.tsThis creates a “dump” of exactly what’s on that channel.
Filename could/should be the full path to where you want to save to (or will be put int he directory you run the command from. 1800 is 30 minutes of recording (60 seconds times 30 minutes).
If you ever need to manually record something that’s not in the EPG the commands above will work. Changing the duration to 30 and running that with the proper channel number is a great way to create a small test file as well if you ever find some weirdness with a particular show and want to forward it to the devs.
If you have an HDHomeRun Prime you could run a similar command 3 times and record three different shows/movies that way as well.
That won’t work for tuners other than HDHomeRun with http support but there are other ways to record from them as well, just not quite as simple.
Carlo, I learn something almost every time I read your posts! After a little experimenting I created a batch file with a single line in it:
C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\powershell.exe Invoke-WebRequest http://192.168.1.16:5004/auto/v4.1?duration=20 -OutFile test.ts
…and sure enough I recorded 20 second snippets of an OTA station here. The thing that I was missing originally was that this was a PS command, not a regular command line executable.
The first time the audio was a little out of sync but subsequent tests seemed to work fine. Very cool!
@KaraokeAmerica if you are using PowerShell you should actually be able to use the curl command. You can also use ls instead of dir or rm instead of del.
@johnm_ColaSC said:
@KaraokeAmerica if you are using PowerShell you should actually be able to use the curl command. You can also use ls instead of dir or rm instead of del.
I don’t really use PS as a rule. I know it’s powerful, but I’m a Windows baby and use GUI’s for most things. I just thought this was cool!
What does CURL do that I couldn’t do just as I did?
@KaraokeAmerica said:
@ctang_ns said:
This is simple stuff which Plex cant even get right and charges premium for a product.A premium? I think I paid $125 for a lifetime license.
I wish Microsoft or Adobe charged that kind of “premium” for their products…
£1 is premium if the product doesn’t work
I have paid £5,000 for AutoCAD previously and I consider that value for money as the product works.
I probably should have mentioned powershell.
In this simple example you could use either in Powershell. But if you aren’t a Linux/Unix guy you might as well just use the windows format.
Plus here’s the kicker. In Powershell curl is an alias to Invoke-WebRequest (as well as a couple of other typical web commands)
PS> Get-Alias -Definition Invoke-WebRequest | Format-Table -AutoSize
CommandType Name Version Source
Alias curl → Invoke-WebRequest
Alias iwr → Invoke-WebRequest
Alias wget → Invoke-WebRequest
Besides, this way I got to show how to do it two different ways. 
Carlo
@ctang_ns said:
@KaraokeAmerica said:
@ctang_ns said:
This is simple stuff which Plex cant even get right and charges premium for a product.A premium? I think I paid $125 for a lifetime license.
I wish Microsoft or Adobe charged that kind of “premium” for their products…
£1 is premium if the product doesn’t work
I have paid £5,000 for AutoCAD previously and I consider that value for money as the product works.
So don’t buy it.
Whether something is a “value” though is only relevant in the context of its peers. It’s not a dollar value, it’s whether you get comparatively more bang for the buck compared to Plex’s peers.
I have not tried Emby or JRiver, but I did use Kodi prior to Plex and toyed with some others in the past. I don’t…and I don’t think anyone is…suggesting that Plex is perfect, but I do think they are on the right track. Stuff like live TV and DVR are relatively new features for Plex compared to other solutions and technically they are still beta. It’s complete enough and works well enough for me that I’m sticking with it. It will only get better over time, IMO!
Of course everyone has their own cross to bear and if it isn’t the best option for you, then of course you shouldn’t use it. However, if you’re so sure there are better options why aren’t you using them instead of complaining here? It doesn’t sound like you have any $$$ invested in it.
I didn’t have a choice. Plex doesn’t give you Live TV for free or anything for free, you have buy a plex pass which I did.
On the Nvidia Shield TV there is no other option other than Plex. The product doesn’t work - And Plex doesn’t do refunds. Which is illegal and the tech support is none existence.
I wanted a one box solution using plex which now know doesn’t work and cost me $$$ to find this out.
Now I use a 2 box solution with TVheadend server running on a cheap atv box recording to my NAS costing £26! Cheaper than 1 year Plex subscription and it f***ing works and my family can work TV again!!
@ctang_ns said:
I didn’t have a choice. Plex doesn’t give you Live TV for free or anything for free, you have buy a plex pass which I did.
That true
On the Nvidia Shield TV there is no other option other than Plex. The product doesn’t work - And Plex doesn’t do refunds. Which is illegal and the tech support is none existence.
That not true Emby Server for Android and they even do refunds.
I wanted a one box solution using plex which now know doesn’t work and cost me $$$ to find this out.
That under stand able
Now I use a 2 box solution with TVheadend server running on a cheap atv box recording to my NAS costing £26! Cheaper than 1 year Plex subscription and it f***ing works and my family can work TV again!!
You could gone with a NAS Box like a TS-251+ or Build Mini ITX (PCIe or USB) or Intel NUC (USB Only)
I just wonder what didn’t work on Nvidia Shield TV ?.
@shspvr said:
That not true Emby Server for Android and they even do refunds.You could gone with a NAS Box like a TS-251+ or Build Mini ITX (PCIe or USB) or Intel NUC (USB Only)
I just wonder what didn’t work on Nvidia Shield TV ?.
Nvidia Shield TV - could not play liveTV channels, could not record anything (missed all/most of the Winter Olympics 2018 because of Plex). Basically, LiveTV 99% didnt work at all , there was 1% chance you could watch or record what you wanted if you were lucky.
I have been on holidays for the last 10 days - and there has been 2 updates to Plex since. I have connected USB tuner to Plex again in hope something may work!
Emby Server does not work on Nvidia Shield TV when using USB tuners (Root required) - so I am stuck with Plex or until Nvidia allows access to the USB TV tuners / Google updates LIVE Channels to support more USB TV tuners. If i ‘Root’ i lose Netflix UHD - not an option.
LIVE TV - generally plays fine now, on occasions it still shows ‘Record Live TV failed etc… - please try again later’ and the channel does not play at all - Reboot of the Nvidia Shield TV or restart Plex Server app fixes it.
DVR - I have not yet tried DVR since the updates - if I can be bothered i will test later, currently TVheadend works fine so there’s no need for Plex DVR.
All I want is watch and record LIVE TV - yet this seems I am asking for ‘the moon on a stick’
Currently - my 2 box solution is still better than Plex, as for ‘NAS Box like a TS-251+ or Build Mini ITX (PCIe or USB) or Intel NUC (USB Only)’ - yes agreed this will be my next approach when I need to update my NAS - running Linux with Emby / TVHeadend server (then there is no need for Plex or a separate TVheadend server). I only went NS ATV 2017 because for 4K streaming from Netflix, Amazon etc… - Intel NUC, NAS TS-251 devices currently cannot stream 4K from Netflix or Amazon etc…
@ctang_ns said:
@shspvr said:
That not true Emby Server for Android and they even do refunds.You could gone with a NAS Box like a TS-251+ or Build Mini ITX (PCIe or USB) or Intel NUC (USB Only)
I just wonder what didn’t work on Nvidia Shield TV ?.Nvidia Shield TV - could not play liveTV channels, could not record anything (missed all/most of the Winter Olympics 2018 because of Plex). Basically, LiveTV 99% didnt work at all , there was 1% chance you could watch or record what you wanted if you were lucky.
I have been on holidays for the last 10 days - and there has been 2 updates to Plex since. I have connected USB tuner to Plex again in hope something may work!
Emby Server does not work on Nvidia Shield TV when using USB tuners (Root required) - so I am stuck with Plex or until Nvidia allows access to the USB TV tuners / Google updates LIVE Channels to support more USB TV tuners. If i ‘Root’ i lose Netflix UHD - not an option.
LIVE TV - generally plays fine now, on occasions it still shows ‘Record Live TV failed etc… - please try again later’ and the channel does not play at all - Reboot of the Nvidia Shield TV or restart Plex Server app fixes it.
DVR - I have not yet tried DVR since the updates - if I can be bothered i will test later, currently TVheadend works fine so there’s no need for Plex DVR.
All I want is watch and record LIVE TV - yet this seems I am asking for ‘the moon on a stick’
Currently - my 2 box solution is still better than Plex, as for ‘NAS Box like a TS-251+ or Build Mini ITX (PCIe or USB) or Intel NUC (USB Only)’ - yes agreed this will be my next approach when I need to update my NAS - running Linux with Emby / TVHeadend server (then there is no need for Plex or a separate TVheadend server). I only went NS ATV 2017 because for 4K streaming from Netflix, Amazon etc… - Intel NUC, NAS TS-251 devices currently cannot stream 4K from Netflix or Amazon etc…
I see that can be a drag and odd that your having problem with it
Maybe try a full reset of the Nvidia Shield TV would help maybe something got mess up
Sorry I wasn’t ware that it need to be root
+1 to this
FYI. My new Samsung QE55Q7FAM 55" Smart 4K Ultra HD HDR QLED TV (purchased April 2018) allows me to plug in an external hard drive and I can record directly to it. Also, it supported Timeshift, so I can pause live tv.
It’s a bit clunky, but does the job until Plex ‘eventually’ brings out a decent EPG, the. I’ll check nectar my aerial to my tuners in my media server.
+1 for grid EPG
