GOODBYE PLEX, hop on the train to leaving plex in the dust

With either server you get out of it what you put into it. While my libraries are largish I spend the right amount of time curating the content and it pays off big time in the end as I get professional results.

I too used to avoid “special cuts” because they got in the way, but not anymore as they can be easily managed with multi-versions using the name tag in the file name.

I’ve been making use of this in many older films as well. For example many older versions where black and white. The Wizard of Oz was colored after the fact. Perfect candidate for naming like this so you can choose to play back the B&W or colored versions using the name tag. People usually associate this feature with directories cuts and whatnot but you can use it for all kinds of cool things like the one I just mentioned.

I got (old) movies like that too. Sometimes they have different resolutions, so I could also identify them with Plex (by chance).

Same goes with converted versions (Emby’s version of “optimisation”), since they get the “- mobile” or “- tv” tag automatically for instance.

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From my experience yes. What you do is add the 1080p or 720p version first and allow Plex to fully scan the library, then go back and add the 4K version and scan again.

If you use this staggered approach then Plex will be happier and Emby will add the 4K version as usual. Ordering of adding won’t matter to Emby but very much does for Plex. This of course could change at any time in Plex but for now is the “key” to doing this.

Cool so in theory, remove my existing UHD library from Plex. Do a “butler” run, so that Plex didnt know I ever had 4K version. Then hopefully as I add each 4K version back to my “main” movies library it will see the 720/1080p version as the default?

Time to experiment on my next days off. :grinning:

You may need to remove all versions of said movie first, then add back all but the 4K versions, then the 4K version.

Easy enough to try with a couple of movies as a test!

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Yep will do .
Thanks for the tips. :grinning:

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GOODBYE TREAD, hop on the train to leaving this thread in the dust.

Well why don’t you :grin:

As for me I’m enjoying the conversation about multiple versions and learned something… I’d love to merge the 3D library into the regular movies!

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I would say that for Radarr users like ourselves a lot of due care and attention would be needed until the time comes that Radarr itself can deal with multiple copies.
Having said that, the desired naming can be achieved simply with the correct naming pattern in Radarr itself.

But with the two movies I manually moved to test, everything works as expected.

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[quote=“cayars, post:191, topic:345417, full:true”]

This is something other than collections and watched status that was asked. You’re talking about multi-versions of movies/shows. But again this works just fine if you heed what I said in the top quote and follow naming conventions which it doesn’t sound like you’re doing otherwise the multiple versions would already be in the same folders.

You said it’s not your experience but then also say you didn’t follow the naming conventions because you have to many movies and the tedious task isn’t going to happen. This is a case of not following directions and not getting things to work as planned.[/quote]
Unsurprisingly as I am using Plex I am following the Plex naming conventions. Unfortunately this doesn’t work for Emby which gives me duplicate posters for multiple versions. I have a lot of movies where I have a Blu-ray remux & a lower bit rate more network friendly 1080p version. In Plex I get one poster & the option to choose which version I want to play. Emby already has this with TV shows without funky naming schemes so it seems inconsistent that the same mechanism isn’t used for movies.

I’m not sure how you think you’re following the naming conventions. Lets take an example of using Top Gun (1986) with a 1080p version, 3D version and a remux version.

Guidelines show to use the name of the movie and the year as the folder. So that would be “Top Gun (1986)” . All three of the files would then be in this “Top Gun (1986)” folder with names similar to:
Top Gun (1986)-1080p.mp4
Top Gun (1986)-3D.Half-SBS.mp4
Top Gun (1986)-Remux.mp4

https://support.plex.tv/articles/200381043-multi-version-movies/

Really considering it since I can no longer play anything on my shield or mi box without it dying out and the stupid server is not fast enough error.

I’m not sure, but I think that support article, or a related one indicated that the resolutions or versions should appear after a dot. Like this:
Top Gun (1986).1080p.mp4
Top Gun (1986).720p.mp4

Maybe I had sniffed too much glue (Airplane-looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue), but I could swear it was a Plex support article. Can’t find it anymore so I cannot add a link to it.

Anyway, perhaps that’s what others are running into. I know when I switched over to Emby I had similar issues with featurettes being identified as actual movies, and different versions appearing as duplicates.
After reading the Emby support article I applied the correct naming conventions and everything was fixed in one fell swoop.

Not sure about that, but I can tell you that naming convention will work in Emby in the new Beta as the double dot naming is being added for additional multi-version support.

Unlike a TV show library a movie library does not need any folder structure & all the movie files can be dumped in the one folder that is the library.

Putting the different versions in a folder is not necessary & not specified in the naming guidelines. It is shown in the sample on the page you linked to but is not compulsory.

The problem here is that a lot of the issues and heartache recently is stuff that no one can really help you with. For instance, at face value the new version of the smart TV and roku apps is horrible but it goes beyond that to the point where things don’t function correctly for many people. I lost surround sound and my dashboard keeps getting confused with my room mate’s… And the thing is that there is nothing anyone can do about this. Plex pushed the update out to people who had those devices and give no option for them to revert back to what actually worked… There is anyone on these forums that can help me because no one other than plex has the ability to do anything about this.

This is the problem with app store type software. You don’t control it… I once bought pinball tables in an app for my phone that, when all said and down, was worth well over $100 bucks – it was well worth it until the designer changed the menu system and it quit working for me… I lost access to all that and it took a huge fight and reports to the BBB before they finally agreed to refund me. Now granted, Plex clients aren’t a pay app but those of us that have been using it for many years have invested lots of time and many have put money into plex pass subscriptions to one day just have everything quit working. The reason why we picked Plex in the first place is because when we want to watch something on our TV’s we just want to relax but we are now in a place where that isn’t what happens day to day like it used to.

In short you really have to read between the lines. There are people here that have invested lots of time and really just don’t want to leave Plex but we have issues that are MUCH deeper than just a new interface that is ugly and we have issues that we are no longer in control to fix.

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I looked into Emby but there are certainly some concerns that Emby is starting to build some things into the software that will ultimately push the project in the exact same place that Plex is now. My hope is that jellyfin gets going and gains a lot of traction because at this point in time I’m tired of Plex but don’t want to jump ship to another place that is potentially going to bring me back to where I am now in a few years.

… and before you tell me Emby won’t do something like that please remember that there was a day that we believed Plex would have never done this to us.

Out of curiosity could you give examples?

They deleted the github issue where most of the concerns were aired out but fortunately at least some of it is over at Internet Archive

If you read through that it kind of plays out in a similar way to how people here feel. Lots of lifetime members upset because the devs decided to switch to a closed source model. This is exactly why Jellyfin was forked off of the last existing open source version of emby so that it can continue without paid features.

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Fair enough.
Personally I have no interest in open or closed source. As long as it works or at least if something stops working the issue is actually acknowledged and fixed then I’m all good.