Plex vs. Emby

Hey,

I discovered Emby (https://emby.media) today and give it a chance.

What Plex do better:

  • The web interface is much much much better
  • Better meta data handling (especially that Plex can be configured to prefer the meta-data in the files)
  • Better matching for Movies (had to fix a lot of movies manual)
  • Much thumbs for TV-Series - Emby didn’t find for many episodes the thumbs.
  • Better subtitle handling (Emby tries always to download subtitels, even if there are subtiltes in the video files)

What Emby do better:

  • Transcoding can be disabled on user-level! (Plex miss this option completely).
  • The Emby Apple-TV user-interace is much better (Introducing Emby for Apple TV):
  1. cleaner and easer to use
  2. the background-art/banners are shown
  3. Unused/empty items like playlist are not shown in the interace
  4. No mix-up between a top and sidebar navigation :slight_smile:

What do you think about emby?

@Hanterdro said:
Hey,

I discovered Emby (https://emby.media) today and give it a chance.

What Plex do better:

  • The web interface is much much much better
  • Better meta data handling (especially that Plex can be configured to prefer the meta-data in the files)
  • Better matching for Movies (had to fix a lot of movies manual)
  • Much thumbs for TV-Series - Emby didn’t find for many episodes the thumbs.
  • Better subtitle handling (Emby tries always to download subtitels, even if there are subtiltes in the video files)

What Emby do better:

  1. cleaner and easer to use
  2. the background-art/banners are shown
  3. Unused/empty items like playlist are not shown in the interace
  4. No mix-up between a top and sidebar navigation :slight_smile:

What do you think about emby?

There have been many many posts on the same subject so in theory anyone still here prefers Plex and and anyone who preferred Emby wont be reading your post.

Just do a search for Emby here on these forums. The whole subject has already been done to death.

Oh sorry. I searched but I didn’t find such a discussion.

If you consider Plex as a new Roles Royce then Emby is a 1965 Volkswagen. The VW is stable and reliable but is uncomfortable to drive while Roles is a joy to drive most of the time but does have complexities and subtleties that can complicate usage and make maintenance excessively complex.

That is in basic operation Emby is OK but does not offer the overall quality of experience that Plex does.

Also do not feel bad about not finding the “Emby” threads as most of them are actually sub-plots of threads that started with other subjects and the search function of these boards are less than adequate for finding detailed info that is not of the first few pages of the forums.

But @HitsVille was correct in that you will not find many here that prefer Emby as those that do have migrated to the Emby forums where they can deal with the like minded.

Only feature that is listed on Emby that Plex dont do is Live TV, but I can either turn on my TV or use HDhomerun app on my computer or use the HDhomerun add-on on kodi on the other boxes…

Plex is so diverse in what it can do, I have only scratched the surface over the past few years.

To me it was a replacement to MythTV 5+ years ago or so. I wont look back!

For me emby is very buggy and the web interface is not responsive despite being on a dual Xeon server.

The Emby interface is confusing. It’s really two different interfaces when using a web browser. There is the ever confusing management (default view) and the Theater view which is closer to what Plex gives you. Of course on a Plex system it’s all one interface that blends perfectly.

Turning off Transcoding is kind of dumb from many points of view. If you can’t direct stream the file then you typically want the server to transcode the video so that the client can play it. The only real use of turning off transcoding is to brutally force a user to direct play “or go home”. :slight_smile:

The emby transcoder is no where near as sophisticated as the Plex transcoder. Emby often times picks weird combinations of codecs to use when there are better suited codecs. Emby can’t throttle the transcoder very well so it goes nuts if you have people checking out different videos such as playing the first couple minutes of different vids to see what they want to watch. Plex handles this in stride while Emby keeps stacking up transcodes even though many of them aren’t needed anymore.

For those that follow Plex closely you noticed in the last few releases that Plex now handles audio a bit differently. It caused a few bugs that had to be fixed but now opens up tremendously what can be done down the road. For example with HW transcoding Plex can worry about the video only via HW and tackle the audio separately for better handling of TrueHD, atmos, DTS while Emby has to rely on the hardware to do both audio and video and will only be able to use the audio codecs that are strictly supported by the HW GPU. Not nearly as flexible.

I could go on and on and I run both systems and know both inside and out. Where Emby is better for now is in a few things. First is Live TV with time shifting which we know is coming to Plex. Emby handles scheduling better in the DVR and makes better use of the tuners and respects network tuners where Plex “assumes it owns” the network tuner and doesn’t handle things well when it can’t access a tuner. Why this is important is that Emby will check to see what needs to be recorded and if multiple things need to be recorded it picks the highest priority item, checks for a tuner then records, it does this until all shows are being recorded. In the event a tuner isn’t available it will be the lowest priority show that doesn’t get recorded. Plex on the other hand appears to schedule what tuner is used much earlier in the process even though it has no idea if the tuner is available or not (since it assumes it will have access to all tuners). So if you happen to use another device to watch live TV then you have no idea which show won’t get recorded and it could have been you #1 priority show that’s a MUST record. Meanwhile 2 shows you might not care about get recorded because the tuner that was pre-allocated for it was available. ← not sure of the technical implementation but the outcome of the recordings is the same.

Emby allows you to manage users on the system with no need for a 3rd party to be involved. So you can create an account, set a password and give access to your libs while on the phone with someone and have them immediately log in. This was a strong point for Emby but they are now mucking it up. They rely more and more on the server admin having a Premier account (similar to Plex-Pass) but are far more restrictive. For example you can only have 15 total devices that require premier membership attached to your server then otherwise you have to purchase the apps. So you could be running the “free apps” but do to a few friends using your server you can’t login yourself without having to purchase the apps. STUPID, STUPID, STUPID. Emby also now checks daily on the server to see if it can “phone home” for premier validation. If it can’t connect it doesn’t work even though your accounts are local. You can get around this but you have to re-compile the code and know what you’re doing.

Another thing that Emby does really well that Plex does not is handling Movie Collection. It can automatically create your Back to the Future, Start Wars, Star Trek, James Bond collections for you which is nice.

In the TV shows listings Emby can have placeholder for shows you are missing or upcoming shows that haven’t aired yet. Both a nice touch.

Other then these few things Plex is better in almost every respect. Plex has more clients, has smoother working and more reliable clients, has more features that just plain work and uses less system resources when transcoding.

Carlo

I use both. Emby is kickass for live tv.

I have been going back and forth between Emby and Plex for a few months now. The mechanics of Emby’s web interface desperately needs help but the information it provides, I feel blows Plex’s offering out of the water. I love the actor synopsis’ and links to external websites that Emby provides. Other small things like clicking on a particular actor in Emby shows you all in one place what movies and TV shows they appear in. With Plex’s separate library structure everything it returns is only relevant to the library your in at the time. I hate that.

Like @cayars said, its collection features are really neat and just puts a spotlight on how neglected Plex’s offering is in this area. I have to disagree in the statement that “Plex system it’s all one interface that blends perfectly”. I find the separate library approach very user unfriendly and like how Emby handles libraries much better".

If it wasnt for the unreliable web mechanics and no ability to sync to anything but a Windows phone (really Emby??) I probably would have jumped ship.

@cayars said:
The Emby interface is confusing. It’s really two different interfaces when using a web browser. There is the ever confusing management (default view) and the Theater view which is closer to what Plex gives you. Of course on a Plex system it’s all one interface that blends perfectly.

OR… Its the idea is so great that Plex copied it into non embedded PMP. :smiley:
Sorry couldn’t resist.

How does Emby handle internet outage on the server? Does one also have to turn of all the premium features to use it or will it work for a while?

@scorpuk said:
Only feature that is listed on Emby that Plex dont do is Live TV, but I can either turn on my TV or use HDhomerun app on my computer or use the HDhomerun add-on on kodi on the other boxes…

Plex is so diverse in what it can do, I have only scratched the surface over the past few years.

To me it was a replacement to MythTV 5+ years ago or so. I wont look back!

Don’t forget the Podcast support. This has been a major request in the Feature Request section for a long long time now. Audiobook support as well. We finally have an option for Plex to remember playback position in audio files, but I’ve found it to be incredibly buggy. Especially with large audio files.

@HitsVille said:

@cayars said:
The Emby interface is confusing. It’s really two different interfaces when using a web browser. There is the ever confusing management (default view) and the Theater view which is closer to what Plex gives you. Of course on a Plex system it’s all one interface that blends perfectly.

OR… Its the idea is so great that Plex copied it into non embedded PMP. :smiley:
Sorry couldn’t resist.

They are nothing a like in this department. Emby is horrible. Emby needs to figure out a better way to organize the backend.

@Heciruam said:
How does Emby handle internet outage on the server? Does one also have to turn of all the premium features to use it or will it work for a while?

It wants to “phone” home daily and if not connected won’t work with premium access. Also most of the clients using premium access are limited as well. With Emby even a web browser can be consider a premium device.

Emby used to be a good platform for running off line but this is no longer the case. Of course you can purchase every client you want to use and this will help but even then it still wants to phone home.

As other people above I use both.
My main client used to be the Roku 3 and the Emby client (even redesigned) is so far behind the Plex client usability and looks wise it’s not even funny. Also, every tine I use the Roku client it tries to sell me Emby Premiere for Live TV. I also use the windows 10 store app and that’s clunky to use as well. Whilst the Plex UWP app has its issues (although I’ve not had any), it’s miles ahead of the Emby offering.
On the Shield the Emby app is ok, but not free, but it doesn’t mention anywhere that it’s a paid app, The same goes for Emby Theater in the Windows store, it doesn’t mention anywhere that it’s paid or that you need Premiere.
Bottom line: yes the server management might be better in Emby, but that’s no use if the clients aren’t great.

Other than the liveTV / DVR aspects, the much better Kodi Support, Some of the Admin Management Ability and possibly the plugin ecosystems (i think its a better design than the plex one).

Otherwise, plex (esp the polish, ease of use and transcoder) just hands down wins.

I’m a lifetime member of both, and pretty much only use Kodi for dvr/live tv and as a backend for my Kodi. Remote access and apps all go via plex.

Luckily some of the Management aspects can be offset by 3rd party add-ons for plex (plexpy ombi etc).

EDIT: I wish plex would add movie collections already ffs.

The Emby Apple-TV user-interace is much better (https://emby.media/introducing-emby-for-apple-tv.html):

Does something like UI count? Its very subjective.

@cayars

First is Live TV with time shifting which we know is coming to Plex.

Has anything official been said about this or is this more of a logical conclusion?

That is based off of comments posted in various places here in the forums such as this one: https://forums.plex.tv/discussion/230587/plex-dvr-to-live-tv-in-works/p1

There are other similar posts as well that you can search for. Of course that doesn’t express any expected date or how far into development they are but it is an indication non-the-less.

Also base off things posted here: https://forums.plex.tv/discussion/230587/plex-dvr-to-live-tv-in-works/p1
“It is not currently possible to watch TV live or time-shift it before the recording has ended. Recordings must complete before they can be viewed. Live TV/time-shifting is an area in which we’re interested.”

I doubt they would post anything such as “interested” if they weren’t really “interested”. :slight_smile:

Carlo

@cayars said:
Turning off Transcoding is kind of dumb from many points of view. If you can’t direct stream the file then you typically want the server to transcode the video so that the client can play it. The only real use of turning off transcoding is to brutally force a user to direct play “or go home”. :slight_smile:

I don’t want that transcoding creates a high CPU load on my small NAS.
It’s okay that you use transcoding, but there are good reasons that people want to turn it off. At least on User-Account level.