HD Home Run + NAS + Hardware Transcoding

Hi all! I’ve got my old school HD Home Run configured as a DVR on my Synology Disk Station 718+. The configuration seems good, I can get channels to open and play (with some buffering). I can see that my NAS is converting from mpg2 to H264, and the audio as well:

Client Version 3.26.2

Now, without hardware acceleration the video is relatively smooth, with occasional buffers. The NAS CPU (quad core celeron) is at about 60-75% if it’s 1080i content. With hardware encoding that drops to 20-40% but results in more frequent buffers. This is all plex web on a wired local gigabit network.

I get audio direct on android devices, but much the same results with 1080i content.

So my questions are:

  1. Should I adjust any settings (buffer ahead?) for the hardware encoding setup? Obviously I would prefer to have less CPU usage when possible but so far software seems more reliable for whatever reason.

  2. If I replaced my HD Home Run with a HD Home Run Extend that would largely avoid transcoding (assuming the devices are able to play your typical content types… I use mostly web/android/chromecast which so far play everything I’ve tried direct) and result in less overhead? I believe so but I wanted to make sure I understood that it has full support so I’m not dropping $175 to get the same results.

  3. I don’t seem to have jitters/issues with hardware transcoding on other media, for example a 1080p Blu Ray being streamed to my phone, if that helps.

  4. When streaming live TV (not recorded) the stream seems to fall off “now playing” in my status window after a few minutes, I assume this is not intentional?

Any thoughts or suggestions? I’m in the implementation phase so I can play freely without upsetting the family.

Thanks!

I’m just guessing here so don’t shoot the messenger if I am wrong,…

I have a Synology DS1815+ which uses an Intel Atom C2538 SoC so it isn’t the same thing.

The Synology DS718+ uses an Intel Celeron J3455 quad core processor with Intel HD Graphics 500. That should be a good deal more robust then my l Atom C2538 SoC.

If using hardware acceleration under:

Settings > Transcoder

isnt good enough performance wise then what other option do you have?

I thought perhaps “it just can’t transcode that” as well, but I thought since non hardware assisted was better than HW perhaps there was something else wrong. The CPU usage seems to indicate some headroom:


(1080i Transcode going on, as well as audio and video playback to two other screens)

And nothing else slows down during transcoding so it seemed odd.

That said, I don’t know that PMS officially endorses HW accel on NAS devices, even when equipped with a CPU that supports it so I may be chasing a problem I can’t solve outside of investing in the Home Run Extend, which I am willing to do if it will solve my problems.

Okay I’m pretty convinced this isn’t the hardware unable to keep up now.

For S&G’s I left the TV playing, and set my favorite test case Finding Dory to transcode from source 1080p to 720p 2mbps at the same time on a different machine: (I combined two screen shots to show both transcoding):

The TV Played normally except when occasionally dropping out to what looks like buffer, while the movie played without hiccup and the CPU usage is as such:

So it’s either the mpg2 transcoding portion or my HD Home Run is having a problem? I opened the same channel on the HD Home Run app and let it play for 10-15 minutes and it didn’t hiccup but that of course only suggests the mpeg2 stream is coming through ok.

I’m shamelessly bumping this thread.

Live TV with hardware encoding ON and working buffers regularly, even with low CPU usage, I’m open to trying mostly anything.

Hardware transcode OFF seems to work mostly fine.

Logs attached, I just generated these on the latest PMS (1.10.0.4516)

Recorded TV playback without converting sees some buffering as well. Seems the Celeron CPU really doesn’t like the MPEG2 format…

Woops, pushed post before the logs attached.

I hate to bump such an old topic, but I was wondering if this was ever figured out or resolved?

I’m about to pull the trigger on a 718+ (I already have a HD HomeRun Connect Duo) that I am hoping to use for Live TV. Reports on DVR seem fine but I can’t seem to find anyone mentioning if it works well with Live TV. Thanks!