How about a new “REAL EQ” for both Plex and Plexamp.?

Hi everyone,I love Plex, and have been able to stay reasonably cool about the way Plex is going about monetizing things. I own all my own media , so that I don’t have to watch commercials and that the venue for playback I’ve chosen, (Plex)… is among the best of the best.
I consider myself lucky,…… I’ve never really had any problems with Plex

In the same vane, because I’ve corralled all of my media into Plex. I would like to think that the experience that Im chasing, is nothing lost on the Plex team. However,…… and this is a HUGE disappointment for myself and I’m sure quite a few others. What’s the deal with the either non existent “Hi End” Graphic EQ in Plex and the one I don’t see ANYWHERE in Plexamp.
Plex has Stuck its chest out wanting to clearly do a lot of things to make Plex better.
Being that 100% of Plex / Plexamp’s purpose is to facilitate the process of playing back Multimedia in an enhanced manner. Which for me ( video wise) seems to be working flawlessly as long as I don’t screw up the naming conventions too bad.
But being an audio engineer and movie and music lover all my life, output is what we are seeking here. Whether it’s movies or music, ALL artists, studios, mastering technicians, EQ their sound in different ways, affecting the final output that arrives at a given set of my speakers. Of course, we all want our stuff to sound great! But this is absolutely impossible to achieve without a “Good” multi- crossband parametric EQ, as the final sound left un-EQ’d, can sound anywhere from pretty decent, needing a Greek here or there,…… to sounding absolutely terrible, because the mastering technician has a religious thing against properly compressing something, or adding/subtracting any EQ.,…, as they consider themselves “Audio Purists” ……. Bologna!

Every song sounds different from High end to Low end and everything in between,….. not to mention that the gain coming into the preamp may be too hot, or simply too weak…….. With no good tool to adjust these factors, Plex is just another “ here you go….” Multi media player.

What a waste. With Plex’s beautiful interface, I have no reasonable control over the end product sound that I’m trying to enjoy. This becomes especially aggravating when you run into a great tune or movie that just has to be EQ’d to sound good.
It’s always been a mystery to me how purveyors of those platforms that play back music files, as to how there is no “Super EQ” to polish of every song into the masterpiece that I like to believe that it is.

This is not new! I’ve been an audio engineer for 40 years, and the absence of this game changing control seems to have been forgotten by so many purveyors of sound Hardware and Software , as if all music and movies are created equal and therefore should need none. Fooey!

I want to listen to my media the way I like it to sound. Having the media isn’t good enough. How the media presents itself is where the real secret sauce is at. And making it immediately accessible. Not something that’s buried 3 menus deep.

I fool with pretty much every song and every movie I watch. Why? Because most of the time, my last EQ setting isn’t the right one for the next song or movie. Being able to mold the user experience with the addition of a “ REALLY GOOD” EQ would be a masterful game changer for everybody. And with coding getting so much easier, it shouldn’t be ab Empire State Building size project. Or allow vst plugins and allow customers to shape their experience with hundreds of 3rd party plugins that shape sound.

But for goodness sake, you guys are adults now! I thought you’d have picked up on this a long time ago. An EQ ( of any decency) is a game changer for Plex. The very thought of fine tuning my every listening experience through Plex is the assumptive thought I’ve had all along. I guess I’m just surprised that the team hasn’t slam dunked this one into place yet. You can probably license a good one from Eventide or someone. If it truly were a “ Really Good One” I’d pay $15.00 for it.!

Why? Because it changes and enhances my entire Plex experience for the WAY better. Check out some of the vst audio companies and have a look at their EQ’s with nice interfaces that allow choice and flexibility to the user. I think you’d be able to program your own “ high end “ EQ, or subcontract someone to do it for you……….but this is the difference between a “player” and a killer multimedia experience.
What works best for the rest of you? Please advise……. Then build it in!!

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I use the oratory1990 EQ preset built-in to PlexAmp (Settings → Playback → Equalizer). The preset for my headphones (beyerdynamic DT 880 Premium Edition 250 Ohm) had gain set to -7.0 dB and that is the only thing I changed (to -5.0 dB). The built-in EQ works great for me, but you did not mention it so not sure if you were not aware of it or just want something better or available from the main screen.

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That simplifies things, no need for any output above 12K or 14K!

Instead of adding specific audio features, why not request Plexamp add AU or VST or AAX audio plugin hosting?

Today I find it useful to do at the system level.

On a Mac I would use something like SoundFlower or BlackHole to create a virtual output, and then an Audio Unit host like AUHost or menuBUS instead of running a full DAW.

On Windows, I haven’t used these, but they appear to do the right sort of thing, things like Equalizer APO download | SourceForge.net or VirtualAudioStream - DDMF Supreme Audio Software appear to be plugin hosts, and things like VB-Audio Virtual Apps or Virtual Audio Cable - Description appear to be virtual cables.

Why not write it into the thread’s title that what you want is a parametric EQ?

But then again, most regular users will not even use a graphic EQ effectively, without making the output sounds worse. Most will not even understand the concept of a parametric one.

So the question is, whether the small Plex team is willing to put engineer hours into a feature that is only ever used for more than playing around for a few times and then forgotten, by the overwhelming majority of users.

There are workarounds for the discerning user, as was pointed out above.

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Well said Otto!

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