How to add unlisted film/tv program into the databases or ask for others to add them?

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I have found a number of British Television Documentaries not listed on either Filebot or themovieb.org or tvdb.

What is the procedure to get them listed so that Plex will see them, please?

As an example
Ken Dodd: In His Own Words (2017) is listed in imdb but not the others.

The listed Ken Dodd Documentaries/ Films are:
https://www.themoviedb.org/search/movie?query=Ken%20Dodd&language=en

I am sure there is a procedure to send off programs you would like to see added to the listings?

Many thanks in advance
Lanky Lad

You create an user account at TheMovieDatabase and add them yourself.

Or you supply all metadata manually.

Or you use Kodi-compatilbe .nfo files in conjunction with the .nfo importer agents.

Or you use the mp4 container format and embed all metadata into the files for Plex to read.

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Many thanks for that, just what I needed. I had assumed that only people of a certain level would be allowed to add new stuff.

@OttoKerner, could you eleborate on that last option, adding the mp4 metadata?

I’ve used mp3tag (which also supports mp4 containers) to add metadata to episodes of a TV series that is not on TheTVDB, but the names are still not showing up in Plex. Instead it still shows as “Episode 1” etc.

Update: I copied one episode to a new folder, and there the correct name does show! But how to I get it to show for the existing folder? I’ve tried “Analyse”, “Refresh metadata” and “Get info”, but none of these update the episode title.

Update 2: Sorry, this is getting more peculiar. Apparently, the new test folder I created, had a name that was recognised as the title of an existing series. And this seemed to be the reason for the episode title being extracted from the metadata. Because a third folder I created, with random text as folder name, and the same episode copied into that folder, does not get the episode name extracted from metadata… My head is starting to spin here…

Folder structure and folder names are very important with tv shows.
If you post the Plex media info XML of this affected episode, we could find out what is happening.

Or you could just perform the Plex Dance.

I tried the Plex Dance also, which made no difference. (The series were gone from the library during cleaning, but returned again without episode titles when adding again).

Following is the XML for the episode where I added metadata to the mp4 video file:

<MediaContainer size="1" allowSync="1" identifier="com.plexapp.plugins.library" librarySectionID="13" librarySectionTitle="Series" librarySectionUUID="d9704b42-db19-4fe7-838b-fbe515208ed8" mediaTagPrefix="/system/bundle/media/flags/" mediaTagVersion="1557919790">
<Video ratingKey="192212" key="/library/metadata/192212" parentRatingKey="192211" grandparentRatingKey="192210" guid="local://192212" librarySectionTitle="Series" librarySectionID="13" librarySectionKey="/library/sections/13" type="episode" title="Episode 1" grandparentKey="/library/metadata/192210" parentKey="/library/metadata/192211" grandparentTitle="Efteling Sprookjes" parentTitle="Season 1" summary="" index="1" parentIndex="1" year="2004" thumb="/library/metadata/192212/thumb/1560895131" duration="651797" addedAt="1560895119" updatedAt="1560895131" chapterSource="media">
<Media id="189834" duration="651797" bitrate="1303" width="720" height="576" aspectRatio="1.78" audioChannels="2" audioCodec="aac" videoCodec="h264" videoResolution="576" container="mp4" videoFrameRate="PAL" optimizedForStreaming="1" audioProfile="lc" has64bitOffsets="0" videoProfile="main">
<Part accessible="1" exists="1" id="189863" key="/library/parts/189863/1560890714/file.m4v" duration="651797" file="/share/CACHEDEV1_DATA/homes/Peter/Video/Series/Efteling Sprookjes (2004)/Efteling Sprookjes - s01e01 - Sneeuwwitje.m4v" size="106643832" audioProfile="lc" container="mp4" deepAnalysisVersion="3" has64bitOffsets="0" optimizedForStreaming="1" requiredBandwidths="2020,1466,1324,1324,1324,1324,1324,1324" videoProfile="main">
<Stream id="21107" streamType="1" default="1" codec="h264" index="0" bitrate="1142" anamorphic="1" bitDepth="8" chromaLocation="left" chromaSubsampling="4:2:0" colorPrimaries="bt470bg" colorRange="tv" colorSpace="smpte170m" colorTrc="bt709" frameRate="25.000" hasScalingMatrix="0" height="576" level="31" pixelAspectRatio="64:45" profile="main" refFrames="4" requiredBandwidths="1859,1306,1165,1165,1165,1165,1165,1165" streamIdentifier="1" width="720" displayTitle="480p (H.264)"/>
<Stream id="21108" streamType="2" selected="1" default="1" codec="aac" index="1" channels="2" bitrate="161" language="Nederlands" languageCode="dut" audioChannelLayout="stereo" profile="lc" requiredBandwidths="160,160,160,160,160,160,160,160" samplingRate="48000" streamIdentifier="2" displayTitle="Nederlands (AAC Stereo)"/>
</Part>
</Media>
<Extras size="0"> </Extras>
</Video>
</MediaContainer>

From one Lancashire lad to another, many documentaries, although they appear as a one off are actually classed as shows.
That particular one aired on Channel 5 and appears in the tvdb not tmdb
https://www.thetvdb.com/series/channel-5-uk-documentaries/episodes/5902918

That said this approach isn’t really the tidiest option when looking for those shows in Plex.
It will just be buried in a Channel 5 folder.
When you then add BBC, ITV and Channel 4 folders it’s far from friendly when you actually want to sit down and watch a particular one.

Worst case if you have the patience you can (as you plan to do) add it to tmdb and take as much info as available from tvdb.
However from a purist point of view, although imdb allows shows and movies tmdb doesn’t allow shows as far as i’m aware. That episode was created specifically for Channel 5 and doesn’t really have a place on tmdb, so you can definitely expect someone to come along and delete it.

To add IMDb is wrong with the year.
It aired on New Year’s Eve 2016

Generally its best not to fight it and just create a library in Plex for TV based stuff eg.
Documentaries and a movie based library eg. Documovies.

If you do decide to go with the flow then for that particular episode the folder would be named
Channel 5 (UK) Documentaries
and the file would be
Channel 5 (UK) Documentaries - S2016E80 - Ken Dodd - In His Own Words.ext

In a TV based library Plex will then have no issues pulling the metadata available.
For all your other stuff its it falls within the tvdb remit you should be good just googling
“tvdb episode name”

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This indicates that this series is ‘unmatched’.
In this state, it cannot use any metadata agents.
You need to match it, even if it is just the ‘Personal Media Shows’ agent,
then Plex will read the embedded metadata using the ‘Local Media Assets’ agent.

You go to the top level of that show (i.e. when you can see a list of the seasons).
Then you click on the ellipsis
‘Match’
‘Auto Match’ - ‘Personal Media Shows’

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Cheers for that! I had thought to check tvdb but I would never have thought to search under Channel 5 Docs. I just tried “Ken Dodd” and “in his own words” which got me nowhere. Thanks for laying out the options so clearly, it is appreciated. Just have a few health issues at the mo but will decide which path to choose later on.
Thanks again, red rose forever! :slight_smile:

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That’s why it’s just easier doing it via google.:grinning:
Actually manually searching tvdb itself can be painful.
I have to confess I emigrated. Only as far as Cheshire though. :slightly_smiling_face:

Just to add, that the idea of searching via “bbc documentaries”, “itv documentaries” has proved extremely fruitful and I suspect that I will now be able to find all my other “missing” documentaries.
It might take a tedious search of one, then another channel names to find them but we will get there in the end.
Thanks again.

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I think we can forgive you for that :wink: I will also try and get into the habit of googling.

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Again this is why I suggest just typing tvdb and episode name.
Though I kinda knew the Ken Dodd was either itv or c5. Just ”tvdb Ken Dodd In His Own Words” in your search engine gives you the direct link to it on tvdb.

Anyway glad to help.

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Thanks, that worked like a charm Otto! I would never have been able to find this feature on my own… :smiley:

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