Not at all, more saying this is the standard, accepted practice. Then outlining the fact that you accept it elsewhere, a lot of the time without even realizing it’s there. It’s been in the Privacy Policy of Plex forever, they haven’t even changed any since 2020, just because they weren’t using your data which you agreed they could before, or you were unaware that they were, doesn’t make it bad now because you know, or rather, assume, they are
But it doesn’t actually violate the GDRP. Unless Plex advertises in EU Nations they are not in violation. So far as I know they do not. The users who use it come TO Plex to get it, no Plex commercials or ads targeting Americans, so I have a hard time believing there are any targeting the EU
I assure you more than half of the users are happy about it, though many are probably not happy about it being in Beta & not fully developed yet
As I said in a previous reply to you, please go and learn about GDPR and all of the other things you’re posting about before making such comments. Whether or not Plex advertises inside the EU has absolutely zero bearing on whether they’re subject to GDPR. You’re way, way off track with these arguments.
Nobody said THAT was standard practice. In fact in that same comment you are quoting I said:
The quote about Standard Practice was Specifically about the use of user data for statistics & marketing purposes. & the fact that most of the time they don’t even really tell you, they just put it in the TOS.
If you read the discussion you are commenting on, not just that comment you would know that we are talking about Services that many use, I’d even say that MOST use, & I could say with much confidence that NEARLY EVERYONE does at least one. Google, Facebook, Hulu, Netflix, Disney+, TVDB, TMDB, TPDB, IMDB, etc. All of whom collect the same data that people are having issues with.
No. you have really selective reading, you pick everything out of context to make it suite your supposed point. A poll would only show those in the forums, which make up at most 10% of Plex users. But just in this thread probably 10% (I haven’t counted just a meaningless guess) of those commenting, which are more likely to be those who would have a problem being a thread specifically about disabling it, like the feature. Myself & many others think the feature is good, but that the way it was implemented was bad. Many have issues with the fact that recommendations are being shown to restricted child accounts that show results that would be restricted by the restrictions of the account. That is a big problem. Nobody (I’m sure there’s SOMEbody but yeah) nobody thinks it was introduced well.
You are the one who needs to learn about it. I actually didn’t know anything about it before I looked up things because of this argument. But when I looked it up I immediately learned there were a few big problems I saw, from hardly any effort, so I posted about that.
1st the GDPR is not international law. The GDPR being relevant here is like the principal of a school coming into a restaurant a few streets away & saying they can’t sell Peanut butter sandwiches because a child from their school might be allergic to peanuts & might walk past your restaurant on the way to their school. You are not subject to the school’s rules, because you are not a part of that school. But IF you were to go to the school & invite all the kids to come to your restaurant then the school has a legitimate issue. But still, they school can’t prevent you from selling sandwiches, all they can do is not allow you on the school property. If they kids are going to your restaurant because they heard about it from a friend, or saw a sign on the highway that’s outside of the school, the school has no authority there.
Your company is service provider based outside the EU. It provides services to customers outside the EU. Its clients can use its services when they travel to other countries, including within the EU. Provided your company doesn’t SPECIFICALLY target its services at individuals in the EU, it is not subject to the rules of the GDPR.
That or a basic understanding of how laws work, either one will lead you to the same conclusion.
Well surely the existence of this beta feature is based on it’s legality too? But i agree a separate thread would be easiest, but that would make it easier for PLEX to ignore if it has less traction.
Similarly you could argue it’s easier to miss the point of the thread by all the sideways / detours it’s been taking. Reasonable arguments seem to be easily drowned out by all the noise.
@anon5074910 : it appears my suggestion to have a fresh start for a suggestion thread vs. moving the original thread didn’t turn out so well (sorry… call me naive about that one ). There’s now so many detours in this thread (weaving in and out), I find it hard to pin down individual posts to be moved.
As for the privacy discussion: I’m rather sure Plex have covered their bases but hope they can provide some clarity about the specifics (I suspect reality is much less unsettling/disturbing than many imagine). The support articles specifically mention how the source-check happens between your Plex client/server, not involving their backend; I suppose this can (needs to) be amended to reflect the search aspects and if/how data is stored (at least with a reference to the privacy statement).
Very good point. I apologize for my contributions to that, I felt like if the argument was shown to be irrelevant it would go away, but when it didn’t I also should have dropped it. My bad
You’re right, Plexamp is great (though I’d like more granularity for downloading songs and albums rather than just playlists) and Skip Intro generally works pretty well and is a welcomed feature.
I know there are users who will like that the search and Discover can show their other streaming services for when their Plex server doesn’t have something.
However, I agree with most users here who are greatly disappointed that Plex forced this upon everyone even as they claim it’s a beta feature, with absolutely no way to remove the undesirable advertisements.
I want my search results screen back that was supposed to be “coming soon.” We had a great search results screen, but it was removed as they worked toward a “more unified search across your libraries.” As it turns out, it was actually in preparation for this advertisement laden “beta” and search results are still confined to a small drop-down (in addition to not having a “local only” option).
I like it and will definitely be using it. This will still get a vote from me though as forcing features like this down people’s throats will be a terrible move by Plex that will drive server owners away. (Though to be clear, I support account-level disable. Server-level disable is, in my opinion, always absurd.)
If that account level change is accessible in the mobile/tv/etc clients - great! If not, it’s just crappy (much like Online Media Sources), but acceptable.
The counter argument to this is that it removes the server owners’ control over use of their library’s metadata. If it’s not at server level then every server owner has to individually police and micromanage every one of their users to make certain that data from the owner’s library isn’t being shared. That’s a heavy burden to place on a server admin and one that I doubt a lot of them will accept.
The check if a movie / show in Discover, the universal Watchlist or Search is available in a local/shared library is between the user’s client app and their server (or yours if you shared libraries with them). That information isn’t sent to Plex.
No burden for the server owner at all.
How does Plex know an item is available on a personal Plex Media Server?
We take privacy seriously at Plex. To be absolutely clear up front, personal servers are not sending lists of library content to Plex. We don’t know what’s on your server.
Instead, when you visit a Universal Details page, the Plex app asks the Plex Media Servers you have access to (owned by you or shared with you) whether there are any items matching what you’re viewing. If there is a match on that server, then it can appear as an available source on that page.
). There’s now so many detours in this thread (weaving in and out), I find it hard to pin down individual posts to be moved.