@emperialbrewing
Running 5 PMS (aside of 30 other VMs) on 3 x Servers with 2 x Hexa Core, no problem at all.
@jackandjohn
Agreed, but I say if you use Plex, you have a fair knowlege of what is capable and you certainly own a NAS, so a Server is not that far from an introduction.
+1!
@emperialbrewing
Running 5 PMS (aside of 30 other VMs) on 3 x Servers with 2 x Hexa Core, no problem at all.
@jackandjohn
Agreed, but I say if you use Plex, you have a fair knowlege of what is capable and you certainly own a NAS, so a Server is not that far from an introduction.
I´m gonna just pure and simple disagree with you here. Running an Hyper-V cluster myself, and running two different PMS on their own HA VM each, but suggesting that this is not a complex setup for the average home user is absurd.
Besides the hardware and software complications with this kind of setup, there is no centralized information center about who is streaming what, from where, which is also badly needed. There are ofcourse monitoring tools that are able to compile this data together in readable information, but that's more in the skillset of an sysadmin.
All in all, single PMS per user is not feasible for most users.
I´m gonna just pure and simple disagree with you here. Running an Hyper-V cluster myself, and running two different PMS on their own HA VM each, but suggesting that this is not a complex setup for the average home user is absurd.
That's because you use Hyper-V
That's because you use Hyper-V
I´ve run it all. XenServer, ESXi and Hyper-V. IMO when managing a scalable HA cluster, Hyper-V wins. And no, the complexity level does not vary by much, and Hyper-V isn't as needy on specific hardware. But I´m not debating which hypervisor suits best, they all have their merits.
Running a hypervisor to manage multiple user-streaming scenario, is not a feasible solution for the average home user, neither knowledge wise nor hardware.
Hyper-V wins in scalability, I guess you only work for small business then, because all Hyper-V is better at is the price for running a few VMs.
btw since when do you need HA to run PMS? one server is more than enough and not a large investment since you can extend your PMS architekture even further.
Simplicity yes, but it’s not like you can’t do it now. Plex is fine at how it is!
Simplicity yes, but it's not like you can't do it now. Plex is fine at how it is!
This is a ridiculous argument. The changes necessary for Plex to finally support multi-user are not major. If the database already supports multi-user, all the devs need to do is incorporate the ability to log in as different users. It would take work, sure, but compared to the sheer number of people looking at running virtualized plex servers it is hardly any work at all. I'm probably going to run ESXi with a VM just for RAID-Z and some utilities (maybe FreeNAS?), and three Ubuntu server VMs for PMS. That's not the most complex VM setup by any means, but compared to just running a straight up ubuntu server, it sure is annoying. The status-quo is in no way a "it just works" solution, and that ought to be the goal of any software project.
Hyper-V wins in scalability, I guess you only work for small business then, because all Hyper-V is better at is the price for running a few VMs.
btw since when do you need HA to run PMS? one server is more than enough and not a large investment since you can extend your PMS architekture even further.
Simplicity yes, but it's not like you can't do it now. Plex is fine at how it is!
I work in the ISP buisness, managing clouds isn't exactly a part of my job description. I´m just running my own cloud at home for kicks. I dont need HA for PMS VM's, but every VM I have running at home is automaticly HA inside the 'cloud'.
But as myself and others have said, running a pretty juiced up server (which you need for multiple transcoding sessions, each in their own VM) is just not a realistic option for 95% of the users waiting for multi-user enviroment. And even if it was, we would still need a pretty good overview over which users stream what, when and utilizing how much bandwidth.
Again, as mentioned in the Parental Controls discussion, movie by movie might not be as bright when you have 2000 movies. By section means separating some movies from others.
I am all for granular permissions as long as a higher-level options exist, too. The ratings are out there and can be of use for the large-scale permissions and then specific movies could be allowed or blocked based on specific movies.
Tying permissions to user accounts is absolutely the right way to do this, in my opinion, since many clients already support login credentials.
I completely agree with this feature!! My watched/not watched list is a mess because of all the streaming devices I have on my account. Before i found Plex I had multiple Boxee Boxes in the house. All of which has user accounts to keep the watch/not watched seperate...it worked well. I love the sync to iPad feature for my daily commute but often I find that a show is removed from my iPad because someone else watched it :( I have to constantly re-sync stuff or mark it as unmatched again. I also like the idea of setting limits on accounts so that you can block out R content or not show certain collections to certain people.
Again, as mentioned in the Parental Controls discussion, movie by movie might not be as bright when you have 2000 movies. By section means separating some movies from others.
I am all for granular permissions as long as a higher-level options exist, too. The ratings are out there and can be of use for the large-scale permissions and then specific movies could be allowed or blocked based on specific movies.
Tying permissions to user accounts is absolutely the right way to do this, in my opinion, since many clients already support login credentials.
Some good points—but it's important to note that we don't know how the devs are going to handle these two separate issues. Multi-user can be implemented without touching the parental control issue, and parental controls can likewise be implemented without messing with multi-user. A simple passcode to unlock access to restricted material would "work" for parental controls (though it may not be what you're looking for), and similarly we could have multiple users with multiple watch-lists etc. without ever touching "restrictions."
However, I think a number of us would argue that the two issues are so closely related (and complementary) that they ought to be part of the same fix (so that users are assigned "rights" as you described), but who knows if that will happen. It's extra work to integrate them into the same system when compared to doing "quick" fixes separately, but I think it'll be worth it in the long run. These are the sorts of features that put Plex ahead of XBMC.
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with 4 clients in the household, watching TV shows can sometimes get really confusing
Granting users access to individual Sections is what I would like. In my house films and TV are not divided by age rating or genre but rather by whether individuals are interested in a particular series or film.
As a result, granting access by age rating or genre would be no use to me. It goes without saying that I'm not suggesting that age / genre filtering isn't useful for some, just not for my use.
On the other hand, my solution brings its own complication, where every time something new is added, it shows up in the Recently Added and On Deck sections once for each Section it appears in. I can see why that happens but I don't see how granting access to individual Sections would handle that, since I'm the Plex 'administrator' so I need to see all Sections, but as a user I only want to see my Sections. Maybe it needs an administrator account too! I'm glad I don't have to implement this! :D
Also, kudos to those running multiple instances of Plex in VMs, that's an ingenious solution if you have the ability and server capacity but that's more work than I'm prepared to invest and I would imagine the majority of Plex users would say the same. :D
Need some way to maintain watched status per user!
When this function appears at last?
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+1. have to choose between different watch lists vs being able to sync across accounts. not ideal and the feature has supposedly been in the works for quite a while.
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If you confirm multi user support, I'll buy PlexPass membership for each member of household :-)
