Killing PMP

Speaking as a user that purchased Plex Pass and not as a Plex Ninja----the truth on the subject of embedded PMP and new hardware support is that it is dependent on several underlying FOSS components:

  1. LibreELEC
  2. ffmpeg
  3. mpv

The hostOS and the player side of embedded PMP is open source. If the community of passionate PMP fans with developments skills are willing to contribute to these FOSS projects, we can probably solve the hurdles that embedded PMP has faced.

The two biggest wants I have observed in the forums have been the following:

  1. Support for newer hardware
  2. Native 4K HDR playback

Linux, macOS and Windows have been making great strides to support HDR display output in 2019. For embedded PMP, which is the specific platform you are asking about, there is light at the end of the tunnel in the upcoming Linux kernel 5.3/5.4 and DRM updates.

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It looks like it won’t get updates.

That is great news, thank you.

#2 scares me though and makes me think you don’t get it. I never want the answer to be buy a dumb streaming box. I demand much more performance and control over my setup than any streaming box will ever be able to provide.

As for the suit thing, I call em as I see em.

I am replying back to billing support to not go through with my plex pass refund. Please do not make me regret it.

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@elan - That is wonderful news, and a fantastic way to start a Friday.

Very excited to hear the details as they develop.

Thank you so much :grinning:

Andy.

Elan,

Thank you for making the commitment to keep PMP working for the foreseeable future. As someone who has been a long-time user of Plex, and brought several new users on by way of recommendation, I am glad to see you’re not going to leave us out in the cold. I’m also gratified to see that you’re reconsidering how to support the HTPC platform as a whole, and hope that there will be ways for Plex to continue to provide a long term solution that also keeps us HTPC users up to date feature-wise.

Also, I want to offer my apologies if I came off brash or offensive in any previous posts. It was not intended as such. Emotions were running high off the announcement last week, and since that time, I have had time to review what I said, and regret some of what I said and how I said it.

That being said, thank you for providing this media ecosystem that has been great for my family and friends for so long.

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While I still don’t support the movement towards streaming devices, I really think minimally supporting PMP is a very reasonable compromise for the few users who heavily rely on it for their setup.

Thank you for not just ignoring the angry forum mob!

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This is great news, thanks.

Just so I’m absolutely clear (as I’m struggling to get a definitive answer) does this mean that the EPG grid view will or won’t make it to the TV Mode?

My missus refuses to consider Plex as a DVR until the EPG grid view arrives on the basis that it’s a “pretty basic thing that every crappy DVR out on the market does”.

Thanks again.

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I manage a number of folders across drives serving different clients from the HTPC - one is a portable device connected by wire to the HTPC that is removed when we go away offline. . Download and sync is useful to me on the actual HTPC.

Exactly, not the HTPC itself. I’m not talking about portable devices, I’m talking PMP directly on the HTPC that is also PMS. PMP doesn’t have download/sync nor does it serve that specific configuration any purpose to have that feature as all the media is local.

Been lurking on this thread. The original announcement was bad news for my setup (seems a few others too :grin:). The update is good news for me.

Plex revolutionised the way I consume my media. Has made, probably weeks of, entertainment easy for me. I just hope I get to continue that without buying more devices to do it. Cos, honestly, I’d rather give that money to the people who brought me that awesomeness i.e. you guys.

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Support our great leader!

Thank you very!!

Can we finally fix the CEC support on OSX Mojave?
There has been a fix on the github for a year or so but no reply from any developer.

Good one you @elan - i can safely say that this is the best news you’ve ever delivered, now may i suggest before you make any rash decisions about EOL other products you check with your user base rather than relying on your analytics please :slight_smile:

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Thank you for this. I’d be happy if the Win 32 app just provided a 10’ UI.

Regarding point number two, for many of us an HTPC provides a consolidation point where many functions can be combined into one unit. We don’t want to use an HDMI port for a Blu ray player/recorder, an HDMI port for a gaming console, an HDMI port for a streaming device, and an HDMI port for a low end computer to handle emails and web browsing.

I don’t want five remotes and five different inputs to juggle. My TV is the head of my system, and the HTPC keeps my setup simple.

Please keep that in mind when thinking about HTPCs. It’s not that we’re being stubborn – we have our very valid reasons for preferring our setups. :slight_smile:

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Heyya, a quick suggestion. Give us the ability to skin the UI of the Win 32 app. Let us set the font styles, sizes, and colors. Let us set the backgrounds, and even do custom buttons.

Hell, pulling the settings from an editable XML config file at start up could do it, and you’d have a unique customization feature that would set you far apart from your competition and assure you a place in every high end set up.

Glad to hear that you’ve come around on this issue. Since a PC is always necessary to run PMS, that same box should always also be able to be a HTPC player as well. I would venture that most of the objections you’ve heard in this thread are from people like me using PMP in that scenario (PMS and PMP on same box w/ HDMI into a TV).

My advice would be to not overthink it. The minimal feature set that is a must have for HTPC is not very large or complex. An ability to start full screen, basic keyboard navigation, scalable UI components. Those are the absolute basics and are features that any desktop media player should really have anyway. There are, of course the other nice to haves like HD audio passthrough, zoom/crop, deinterlace, remote support, etc, but it really doesn’t take much to keep up the basic 10’ HTPC interface.

The only other thing I would ask for (for purely selfish reasons) is someway for us Linux diehards to continue to support ourselves. I understand you can’t dedicate extensive resources to such a niche group of users, just please leave the door cracked enough where we can do it ourselves.

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Great news, especially bullet “1.” Thanks for making the decision to keep Plex a viable solution across use cases, device types, and operating systems!

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Elan,

Thank you very much for hearing us and taking the communities’ thoughts into account. I am excited to continue seeing the future of Plex as it develops. Time for me to continue working on my media PC for my camper!

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Thank you. It’s great that you’re continuing support of the HTPC.

I also think it’s great that you’re looking at adding more robust features to the streaming boxes.

I think this is a win/win.

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