Local metadata doesn't take effect until I enter edit screen?

Server Version#: 4.147.1
Player Version#: 1.110.0.351-4e48eb83

I have a library set to use the “Plex TV Series” scanner and “Plex Personal Media” agent. Everything seems to be working okay EXCEPT, that the local assets metadata (such as title, poster, etc.) don’t take effect until:

  1. I go to the episode in question

  2. Click on edit

  3. Immediately the poster and title are updated, I simply cancel out of the edit menu

Anyone know why this is? Why doesn’t this load the poster/title when I initially add the items to the library or when I do ‘refresh all metadata’ on the library? It clearly knows they are there/can read them.

Does it only do it from that desktop app or also the web app at https://app.plex.tv?

Are these things that existed before and you added new local metadata or totally new things added to server?

It happens via http://127.0.0.1:32400/ and https://app.plex.tv/.

These are new files that never existed before. However, I can replicate this at will.

  1. Create Library and set to use Plex TV Series scanner and Plex Personal Media agent
    1. Uncheck intro/credits/voice detection
    2. Uncheck enable video preview thumbnails
  2. Add files
  3. Refresh Metadata
  4. Since poster and title don’t change
    1. Go to the episode in question and click edit
    2. Immediately the poster and title are updated behind the menu, simply cancel out of the edit menu
  5. Delete Files
  6. Empty Plex Server Trash
  7. Clean Bundles
  8. Optimize Database
  9. Re-add files (or restore from recycle bin)
  10. Repeat steps 3 & 4
  11. See issue again
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Thank you very much for steps to repeat

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If it helps, this is how my folder is structured:

  • :open_file_folder: TV Shows
    • :open_file_folder: TV Show
      • :open_file_folder: Season 1968
        • :page_facing_up: TV Show - S1968E16 - Title.jpg
        • :page_facing_up: TV Show - S1968E16 - Title.mp4
        • :page_facing_up: Season1968.png
      • :open_file_folder: Season 2025
        • :page_facing_up: TV Show - S2025E01 - Title.jpg
        • :page_facing_up: TV Show - S2025E01 - Title.mp4
        • :page_facing_up: TV Show - S2025E02 - Title.jpg
        • :page_facing_up: TV Show - S2025E02 - Title.mp4
        • :page_facing_up: TV Show - S2025E03 - Title.jpg
        • :page_facing_up: TV Show - S2025E03 - Title.mp4
        • :page_facing_up: TV Show - S2025E04 - Title.jpg
        • :page_facing_up: TV Show - S2025E04 - Title.mp4
        • :page_facing_up: TV Show - S2025E05 - Title.jpg
        • :page_facing_up: TV Show - S2025E05 - Title.mp4
        • :page_facing_up: Season2025.png
      • :page_facing_up: fanart.png
      • :page_facing_up: poster.png
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Did another test after someone on Reddit did the same.

I did steps 5-9 and then let it sit all night. The metadata data never updated when I came back to check in the morning.

Then, instead of editing the episode to get it to update, I simply clicked on the episode and immediately it updated. So it forces the update either via the edit screen or just going into the episode screen. Definitely seems like a bug to me.

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Has Plex been able to replicate this? Is this a user issue, configuration issue or something that requires enhancement(s) on Plex’ side?

Sorry for late reply. does seem to be a server bug not a configuration problem. I was able to reproduce just by adding a image file to an existing episode.

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Excellent! Glad to hear it’s reproducible even on your side. So, assuming that this has been added to a story somewhere and is on the roadmap for a fix?

I did make a bug report but I cannot give any ETA on a fix.

I see the same behavior with embedded metadata, but only in a TV Show type library. The “Other Video” type library updates the metadata automatically. Server Version 1.42.2.10156

Embedded metadata has been troublesome for many years for me, it frequently vanishes and never refreshes itself, I have to manually do it for every episode every few months.

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I have the vanishing issue as well. Show will have artwork for a while and then boom, just gone.

I just checked on some of the shows with local embedded metadata, I discovered I can only get the image to show if I follow the procedure listed above, it will not show with a refresh metadata like it used to. Would be nice if this many-years old issue could be solved.

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Hey, @BigWheel.

Wanted to provide an update.

I noticed recently that a file added was displaying correctly without me having done anything (clicking edit or opening the episode). I wasn’t sure if it just took a while or what? So, to replicate, I did the following.

  1. Deleted the file and artwork
  2. Rescanned the library
  3. Emptied trash
  4. Cleared bundles
  5. Restored the file and artwork
  6. Rescanned the library
  7. Started a stop watch
  8. At about the 4 minute 50 second mark, the artwork/metadata was updated correctly without any further action from me. However, I did close the browser and reopened it just before that (maybe the 4 minute 45 second mark). So, not sure if the browser being closed and opened helped?

To confirm the above, I repeated the process above but as soon as I did #7, I closed my browser. I kept opening/closing it and checking every 10 seconds or so. Again, around the 4 minute 40 second mark, it updated the metadata correctly without me going into the episode or edit screens.

Interesting…

Wanted to get a 3rd data point so I repeated the steps once more but this time stayed in the season screen (didn’t close browser) and just waited. Sure enough, 4 minutes and 57’ish seconds in, the metadata updated.

  • Good news: Metadata is updating and working.
  • Bad news: IMO, it’s taking too long.

Why isn’t this happening pretty much within 10-15 seconds of the file being added? Why is it waiting nearly 5 minutes? That’s the new problem statement.

This appears to be fixed in an alpha 1.43.1 for me. I don’t know how soon it will be in beta or public though. I expect early Nov.

Great to hear the fix is already in the process of being tested. Thank you!

Any update on ETA for when this will be in the public stable build?

I think probably around the 18th but not 100%

Do we have a more definitive date yet, @BigWheel ? Happy Thanksgiving!

sorry i do not.