Metedata question

This may have been asked and I have done some research but I am just not finding anything.

I am cleaning up my Music library and updating all the Metadata tags for every song. So naturally to do this, one needs to go into the properties of the songs to change the Metedata info.

So when you right click on the properties of a Song, go to the Details Tab, and look under the Media info you have
Contributing Artists
Album Artist
Album
Year

Genre
Length

So here is my question. When plex goes out and looks for your songs why is it that if you have all the above fields populated EXCEPT Contributing Artists, plex populates the Artists with the year?

And if Contributing Artists is populated with something, why does plex think that is THE actual Artists of the Song?

Are you using Plex translated into a different language than english?

I’d recommend to not try and correct metadata within Plex. Those changes are not written back into your files but live only within the Plex database. Should you lose it, all the work would be lost.
Instead, bring your files’ embedded metadata into shape and correct the filenames of your files and put them into a sensible folder structure.

@OttoKerner said:
Are you using Plex translated into a different language than english?

I’d recommend to not try and correct metadata within Plex. Those changes are not written back into your files but live only within the Plex database. Should you lose it, all the work would be lost.
Instead, bring your files’ embedded metadata into shape and correct the filenames of your files and put them into a sensible folder structure.

https://forums.plex.tv/discussion/comment/1050849/#Comment_1050849

no, I am using english.

I am not correcting the metedata with plex. I am correcting the Metadata info in the file itself. A contributing artists is just that. A contributing artists. IE Feat. Akon… Feat. 50 Cent. etc.

When I don’t have contributing artists filled with anything in my metedata tag and move that file to the plex server, after it syncs it populated the Artists with the year metadata tag.

If I have the contributing artists filled with the same info like I have for the metadata tag Album Artists, and move that same file to plex server, after it syncs, it populated the Artists name with the matadata tag from Contributing Artists.

I do not understand why this is happening.

I will look at the link you pasted for me thank you and thank you for your response. :slight_smile:

I have a hunch that your software which you use to tag your files is misrepresenting the tags.
There are 2 ‘Artist’ tags which Plex reads:
The Album Artist and Artist/Track Artist
It sounds to me, what you know as contributing artist, is really the track artist.

@OttoKerner said:
I have a hunch that your software which you use to tag your files is misrepresenting the tags.
There are 2 ‘Artist’ tags which Plex reads:
The Album Artist and Artist/Track Artist
It sounds to me, what you know as contributing artist, is really the track artist.

Possible.

When I get a change I will put some pictures to my comments this way you get a better idea through visual of what I am talking about. :slight_smile:

again thank you for your responses and for them being timely as well.

@OttoKerner said:
I have a hunch that your software which you use to tag your files is misrepresenting the tags.
There are 2 ‘Artist’ tags which Plex reads:
The Album Artist and Artist/Track Artist
It sounds to me, what you know as contributing artist, is really the track artist.

as I had mentioned before, what you lastly suggested is what might be going on. Put let me show you with some pictures.

This first image is in plex.

as you can see that track artist is set with the release year of the album. I can not understand why plex is even doing this? If contributing artists “is really” track artists, than it should be left blank not filled with the year.

here is the meta-data tag for the file from the above image:

as you can see, I am not using an actual program but really what the OS gives me to edit the meta-data info.

But when I have contributing artists filled, I get this in plex:

Everything is filled as it should be and my metadata tags for the file looks like this, using the actual OS to set them:

So, for me this make no sense. A contributing artists is just that and and artist that make a appearance in a song.

That is an interesting find!
Since you are using Windows, could you compare this with how mp3tag shows you the tags.
(It is free and pretty good)

Or maybe you could send me one of your files (per PM) for analysis by the developers.

@OttoKerner said:
That is an interesting find!
Since you are using Windows, could you compare this with how mp3tag shows you the tags.
(It is free and pretty good)

Or maybe you could send me one of your files (per PM) for analysis by the developers.

I can do both for you no problem. I apologize for my laziness on my response time. I will compare using mp3tag and post the pictures for you.

Would you like the files I used as example or anyone would do fine?

Again, thank you so much for being on this and responding back quickly. I really appreciate it. Absolutely love what you guys are doing with plex.

@Zerosandones said:
Would you like the files I used as example or anyone would do fine?

Any file is OK, as long as you can re-create the issue with it.

@OttoKerner said:

@Zerosandones said:
Would you like the files I used as example or anyone would do fine?

Any file is OK, as long as you can re-create the issue with it.

It has been a few minutes. I did not forget, I just couldn’t find the time to do this. Well, now I am making the time. Here is part 1 of what you requested. Attached is a picture of what MP3tag shows for the metadata of the file

I will also send you the file via PM if that is possible.

Again thank you for your help. :slight_smile:

From what I can see in your last screenshot, is that the file is missing the ‘Artist’ tag.
You need to set this. This is the Artist who performs the track.
It is not an Artist who merely participates in the track but the artist under whose name the track is released.
This is the main tag by which a musical track is identified (besides TrackTitle of course)

Although your track has the ‘AlbumArtist’ tag set, this is not enough. The AlbumArtist is only there to indicate under which Artist name the Album as a whole is released.

It might appear redundant to set both Artist and AlbumArtist, if all tracks of an album appear under the same Artist name, but this is exactly what is needed to make most music libraries work properly.