Need Help Building a Plex Media Server

Sorry, I am sure this has been asked a million times but most of the posts I am finding are at least a couple years old.

I am a web developer and for the past few years I have been running a plex media server off an old Dell PowerEdge T100, it was meant to host a couple websites but I re-purposed it after I was done with it. I have actually been pretty impressed with how it has worked, up until a few days ago when I went to move it. Now it won’t boot up and I get a “Possible processor failure.” error.

Anyway, I think it’s time to upgrade and get a system built specifically to be a media server. I consider myself technical but not so much when it comes to hardware, like I said, I am a web developer.

I am looking to get opinions on what the best setup is for my needs.

  • Budget = $500 to $1,000
  • I currently use my PMS for EVERYTHING
    • Photo library w/ auto sync from my phone
    • Music Library (stream to various locations)
    • Movies/TV of course!
  • We have 4 TVs, a couple phones and computers
  • Need to handle transcoding
  • Current storage is 20tb but want to future proof this
  • Current setup doesn’t have backups, I would like a solution for that
  • Needs to run fairly quiet, the Dell T100 was loud
  • Most likely prebuilt unless I can work from a guide (I was able to build a couple PCs but worked from several tutorials)
  • Home Speedtest 50down & 10up
  • We all have Roku Tvs, not sure if that matters

I tried reading online about media servers, NAS, etc but there is just so much info, I don’t know what makes a great machine vs a mediocre machine.

That is all I can think of so if I missed something just asked :slight_smile:

Thanks I really appreciate it!

I posted about my NUC-based build back in 2017. It’s been rock solid. I’ve since added another ProBox to expand my drive pool to a maximum of 16 drives. If I were building my server today I’d opt for a more modern NUC; 4 cores and native HEVC support, huzzah!

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Thanks. I will look into this a bit more. I don’t know that I have the technical skills to build this, I had to look up what a NUC was :slight_smile:

Thanks for the video, a lot of useful info.

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I recently ran into this build

It may be too overkill for your purposes though.

It’s like 3x my budget…

Have you looked at just getting a modern Synology with a decent Intel CPU and large chunk of RAM, and using that? Something like a 918+. It’s super-simple to set up, and should do the job well. Make sure you download and install the 64-bit version of Plex which will enable hardware transcoding and optimal performance (I think the 32-bit one is the default in the Synology AppStore). Installation of Plex takes literally seconds and is super-simple even if you’re not technical.

The base enclosure will use about half the budget, and you can then spend the rest on disks. Or you could get a used 916+ on eBay and save some money there. I have a 916+ and 16TB of storage, and it runs Plex very nicely. Most stuff DirectPlays, and anything that needs to transcode does so without issue.

The only problem might be if you’re transcoding 4K streams or many multiple streams concurrently, in which case you might need a bit of a beefier CPU, but in that case to get multiple 4K streams and 20TB of storage, you’re probably struggling with your budget.

The Synology will be very quiet, and has a ton of backup options. For Photo sync the Synology PhotoStation app works really well, and if you install the Syno WebDav plugin there are numerous apps that’ll sync directly to it from your phones (I use an app called FolderSync). I think the Android PhotoStation app also syncs directly to the NAS too.

For Backup, depending on what you need to store, Google One works well - and Syno have sync clients which will push all your stuff to the cloud as an off-site backup. Again, really easy to set up. I have about 2-3TB of photos, so I store mine in Amazon Prime Photos (which gives you unlimited original-res storage for free if you are already a Prime Subscriber). Synology’s software auto-syncs the photos to Amazon automatically.

I also have a music library which I manage through Plex.

Hope this helps!

Hi. I’m with Mark_Otway all the way. After a lot of research, I have recently purchased the Synology DS918+ with 4 4TB WD Red disks (as shipped with 4gb ram). Total cost at the top end of your budget BUT it works perfectly, and is super easy to set up. I previouisly ran Plex on an i7 8gb ram Windows 10 PC.

I now have about 3TB of media on it, nearly 300 movies, almost 2,000 episodes of TV, lots of photos and family videos and over 20,000 music tracks. The video is a mix of H264 and H265 10 bit, all of which stream perfectly to all devices. I’ve had 4 streams running at the same time, one to my 55" Samsung, one to my sons mobile and another to my daughter’s 32" Samsung - all on the LAN. The fourth was to my dad’s LG OLED 130 miles away. All streams ran perfectly.

It’s also really quiet and you can configure it to turn the led’s off at a time of your choice, or to dim them, so it can be put in the living areas. I have mine in the office though as that’s where the router sits.

Plex on IOS is lovely, if a bit fiddly to find your way around it initially - I use it a lot as all of the above is available on it.

My backups are done via USB to portable hard drive and I also now have an off site copy, but I’m going to look at the Synology solution too.

If you go for this option, be aware that these machines are very sensitive to ram choice. I installed a matched pair of Hyper X 4gb modules and had issues with them, ended up putting the original 4gb ram back in and returning the Hyper X. It runs fine with just the original 4gb, but if you’re wanting to run virtual machines etc. then more is advised.

Also, make sure that you follow the guidance to the letter when setting it up: Synology FAQ's ... Read This First!

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@Mark_Otway & @pauldoree

Thank you for the replying. I’m leaning towards getting one of these Synology setups after looking them over, I think it makes the most sense for my skill level and budget.

Couple questions…

#1 - Sounds like everyone says go with WD Reds. Is it really worth the extra money? For example. I could get a 10tb Seagate Ironwolf for $70 cheaper than a WD Red and the Ironwolf is 7200RPM (no idea if that matters :slight_smile:) .

#2 - If I get a 4 bay NAS, could I just get 2 10tb drives and get the others later? Or would it be better to get smaller drives and fill all the bays?

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If you go for this option, be aware that these machines are very sensitive to ram choice. I installed a matched pair of Hyper X 4gb modules and had issues with them, ended up putting the original 4gb ram back in and returning the Hyper X. It runs fine with just the original 4gb, but if you’re wanting to run virtual machines etc. then more is advised.
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This is a bit concerning, I would probably want to max out the RAM to 8gb, I guess just because its fairly cheap. If they are sensitive to RAM choice how would I pick?

#4 - What is the best way to get my data off the old drives from my previous server and onto this one?

#5 - On my PowerEdge I had windows so I would use TeamViewer to remote in, find the media I wanted, download it to a folder and be done. What is that process like for this NAS?

Sorry that was more than a couple questions!

It’s up to you - WD reds have a better MTBF (mean time between failure - i.e., how long they’re expected to run for before, on average, you get an error or a failure). Lots of people swear by WD reds and plenty of people say that Seagates are fine. A lot of it depends on how much you care about a failure. For me, I run RAID, so I can lose a drive without losing everything. But if I lose 2 drives (e.g., a 2nd drive fails while I’m replacing the first), I then lose data, so have to start restoring from backups etc, which is a royal PITA. So I’m happy to spend a little more on WD Reds so that hopefully there’s less chance of multiple failures at the same time. If restoring from backups is quick and easy, or you have stuff you don’t care about losing, then potentially cheaper drives make sense as even if you have multiple failures, you’re back up and running quickly. Bear in mind that you might see better performance from the WDs too, although I suspect most people won’t ever notice a difference. For what it’s worth, I’ve had a 4-bay NAS running for several years, and only ever had a one disk fail. I swapped it with a new one and the array rebuilt itself, and WD sent me a free replacement.

One other tip - if you do order multiple drives, don’t order them all at once. Either spread the order over a few days, or better still order from a couple of different distributors. That way, you’ll get drives from different batches, which means that statistically they’re less likely to all fail at the same time.

Yes, you can do this. However, to get 20TB from 2x10TB drives leaves you with zero redundancy. If you’re running RAID0, and one of the drives fails, you could lose everything. Usually people would run 3x10TB and have one giving redundancy for the scenario above - which would give you 20TB and the ability to have a drive fail without any drama. Again, it depends on how painful it would be for you to restore your data. If you don’t mind a complete restore from backup then RAID0 is fine. If that’s going to be inconvenient, factor in some redundancy. I have 4x6TB in my NAS, which gives me around 16TB and a hot spare.

Have a read about disk sizes too - and get the largest disks you can. For example, if you were to do 2x10TB but in RAID (giving you 10TB + redundancy) then you could add another 10TB disk later and double your space. But if you did 2x6TB and then added a 10TB disk later, you may only be able to use 6TB of that disk. RAID is complex. :slight_smile:

I sidestepped the whole issue by buying my 916+ with 8GB pre-populated. :slight_smile:

Connect them both to your network at the same time, then just copy from the old server’s network share. It’ll take a while, but you won’t have to babysit it. I’d recommend rclone or rsync to do the copy, depending on how the shares are set up.

You can connect in using a command line terminal session (Synology is basically linux). There’s also a bunch of web-based apps for managing the Synology box, including a download client (DownloadStation) and a File manager. There are also Android and iOS apps for these functions too. So for example, I can kick off a download via the Android app DS Get, and when it’s complete move it to another folder via the DS File app. From a user perspective, the Synology has a very strong ecosystem offering.

Thank you for all the awesome feedback!

I think it’s all been answered, but regarding the RAM then as per the reply, just get the synology ram when (if) you order the unit. Regarding the interaction with the unit, as said there are a whole basket of ways. This morning, for instance, my other half forgot to email some stuff to work. So, on my iPhone, fire up the DSFile app, find the files she needed on the server and send her the files - took 30 seconds and soooo useful.

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That sounds pretty convenient! Probably way better than my old setup with TeamViewer.

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