Let me guess: you live in the US.
Damn, I recon you must be fun at a parties. Know-it-all and condescendingâŠ
By the way thatâs wrong. Plexamp begs to differ. But Iâm sure you find a way to dismiss this.
Your hob goblin.
Iâm the least condescending individual in this forum. Iâve been singing their praise for what has become of PlexAmp but that canât go on forever. Elan is the most and if not the worst culprit of offenders on this forum for his hostility and demeanor. But no, while its funny that you think Iâd squash their efforts of PlexAmp, itâs like the ONLY gem right now thatâs saving their behinds. Plex canât just say "hey, we made this ONE and only side hustle successful and still want praise for everything else thats still broken:. Theyâre a GLOBAL, WEALTHY enterprise. There should be more consistency and follow ups than this. Itâs like a putting together a vehicle. Plex has the radio installed, has a full tank of gas, but no headlights, no seatbelts, and no turn signals for telling the people in front and in back where theyâre going. And its been like this for years.
It doesnât matter if a lot have piracy content or not, in this situation the ones plex wanna ban and get rid of are immune to this âattackâ how you think vpn providers keep beating netflix vpn blocks and such? Thereâs residential proxies and such and those who are plex share selling has the tools and the money to use that on their data center server to completely bypass this block which means they are only in the end blocking the average person who is not plex share selling or other ToS breaks
Thereâs also a fair few who can plex share sell from home with 10Gbps home internet or even just 1Gbps with the money to build a NAS or whatever else to host 500TB content⊠itâs a battle that plex cannot win they miss every swing of the sword and instead hit the bystanders and thatâs the problem people have in this thread
Yep - the big players that are selling Plex shares have enough $$$ to just work around the blocks. Yeah, there might be some small folks that take donations for their shares (which may or may not be against the TOC), but honestly all this is doing is hurting the normal folks.
Some of us have more than one computer, and they are built for different purposes.
My NAS (which hosts my Plex server and multiple other servers) idles at 62 watts - measured from the plug, so that includes everything. Thatâs just like leaving a single incandescent lamp running when Iâm away from home.
Having room lights left on or operating on timers so your home isnât pitch black in the evenings when you are on vacation has been a standard security tip for decades now (so burglars canât tell youâre gone).
so, yeah⊠file a class action lawsuit noting the services and application provided, along with the changes to the TOS resulted in the hinderance of usage per agreement of user and Plex. I very much would like to see this happen, just for kicks. Youâll put a dent into Plex having to send them to court, exposing them with a PR nightmare, even cause some chaos amongst the community because then every mom, dad, sister and cousin, gramps and grams, all will be thinking that Plex = piracy.
this is EXACTLY why no one can have nice things. Plex had to remove plugins for this exact reason and wall garden the hell out of the apps. Hell, even Roku wasnât immune this on their platform. Roku limited the usage of private apps to 20 testers and prevented any underground apps from festering onto the OS due to piracy and other content. EVERY platform has had their day in court with piracy prevention. This is not anything new here. But as long as everyone thinks they have a game plan to execute a way to win, Iâm all for seeing how far this gets taken seriously from both users and Plexâs sides.
Iâm European, we donât do lawsuits lol nor does it matter plex isnât accomplishing their goal nor will they even appear so when the ads for plex shares stay around so
My question is why is the ban specifically against Hetzner and not Contabo also? Contabo is cheap like Hetnzer, but is Contabo so cheap that itâs just too unreliable to use for PlexShares or is the underlying issue with Hetzner that they are not taking action against PlexShares when Plex asked them?
I am not trying to exclude other possible reasons, just tying to understand why Hetzner is being singled out individually as a host.
Incandescent lamps?!? In 2023? In most of the world, thatâs a wasteful luxury. As is a 62w draw 24/7/365. That alone in my country would be almost âŹ20/month. Youâre not making a strong case for the universal viability of home servers.
Contabo is nowhere near the value proposition of Hetzner, particularly for high-capacity storage, which matters a lot for those reselling access to servers.
From my understanding itâs because they provide a safe haven for piracy. They have the best bang for your buck too which is why most people use them. If a majority of pirate servers are on their network then communication doesnât even need to leave their network a lot of the time. Helps with not being tracked etc.
Iâm not sure where you get your information of safe haven as I have the very opposite and leaseweb is the safe haven where hetzner will cancel your server or block the network if you get DMCA notice or certain ports are used, some discovery feature in plex can cause hetzner to warn you as well
I know such bulbs are obsolete now, but my point is that practice of leaving lights on has been a thing since before CFL and LED bulbs. So using power in those quantities when youâre not home has been acceptable for some time.
You donât turn off your climate control system when you go on vacation either, and that uses significantly more electricity.
as " one of those people " who use Hetzner for my family media needs I only have 30mbps upload and All those other hosts are more expensive. However my simple solution. move to a Canadian host. why bother whining about this?
Plex can do what they want and You can either change systems or live with it.
You must also live in the US, where burning up enormous quantities of energy is considered a birthright.
Not only does the rest of the world turn off their âclimate control systemâ when theyâre away (or even out of the house for the day), it has never been acceptable to burn up energy. And energy is priced in a way that internalises the externalities. In particular: surcharges to subsidise the development of renewables.
But to return to the subject: Hetzner runs very energy efficient data centres. Thatâs a reason they are so cheap.
Yes, and itâs stupidly wasteful. In Europe, lots of us grow up being taught to turn lights off when we are not in the room. Itâs just common sense.
What? Of course you do. You turn it off when youâre not at home. You may program the heating to turn on maybe 1 hr before you arrive to come back to a warm house. And you can set the thermostat to say 10 degrees when on holiday to avoid freezing pipes. But you donât leave it running as if you were home, thatâs also incredibly wasteful and baffling.
And to bring it back on topic, running a Hetzner VPS is much cheaper energy-wise than running a server + NAS at home.
