Advertising your home is abandoned while you’re on holiday isn’t common sense. Timers running lights a few hours between dusk and late-night can make a difference.
62 watts.
Have you ever placed a meter on your fridge? Maybe I should let my food spoil while I’m on vacation, too.
I think you missed a major reason people self-host: to maintain control (in the physical sense) of their data. Like I said, this system is more than just a Plex server.
Also kudos for getting on the case of the guy with the fairly power-efficient system built specifically for this stuff and not the jokers who leave their whiz-bang-LED-show gaming PC on 24/7 for Plex. I’m done replying to this sub-topic of energy usage for leaving a f’n server on 24/7 (you know, like a server is supposed to be). If you want to be pissy your electric rates are so high talk to your leadership.
The reason electric rates are high in Europe is: 1) renewables surcharges (to promote getting off of fossil fuels, something the US seems to have no interest in); 2) the war in Ukraine.
Even without (2), energy is generally much more expensive for consumers in the EU but that’s because the US pushes all of the costs (including: damage to the environment) onto the general public (and the world population) instead of the users/wasters of energy. One can see this in the US motor sector where petrol is kept inordinately cheap with the result that everyone is rolling around in gigantic SUVs.
Doesn’t exactly give off the vibe of some sort of rogue, irresponsible company does it? Nor does this. You know who does give off vibes of rogue irresponsibility? Plex, who act as though they are shocked!, shocked! that their product is used for piracy, as if that isn’t exactly what’s feeding the vast majority of the home servers they’d like to see run their software, as they know well. But not those horrible datacentres! No, those are evil!
My home electricity is also powered by renewables. But at rates of €0.42 (day) and €0.25 (night) per kWh–and when other considerations are added like the space a home server takes up, the noise, the heat, initial outlay costs–the calculus for home servers vs servers in data centres is totally different.
I think Plex the company doesn’t understand any of these considerations. They seem to think that everyone can just run their own home server because Plex is US-based and imagines everyone with a giant house, cheap electricity, and lots of disposable income to spend on hardware. Much of the world is not like that.
It’s the same reason they are not in compliance with GDPR: it doesn’t seem important to them as a US company.
Your post makes me wonder if this a particular unimpressive show of how more civilized you feel Europeans are (from the perspective of a fellow-European) or if this is actually more of an elaborate and smart attempt to troll on a lot of different levels…?
Generally I’m not that big of a fan… maybe keep the conversation a bit less condescending. I suppose that’ll also help transporting your message/point — aside from inching further off topic.
Tesla is an American company that benefited heavily from Obama era policies that resulted in the federal government giving Tesla a $465 million federal loan to help the company grow during the 2010 stimulus. All major US automakers are going through a major electric transition right now, which includes releasing many new electronic trucks, among many other new vehicles.
As far as Europe is concern, environmental conscientious and general energy conservation go hand and hand with government policies to reduce energy waste due to Europe’s relative lack of oil resources and other fossil fuels compared to that found in North America. The reason why Germany in particular developed heavily around trains is that Germany has natural coal resources but no natural oil resources. Even Germany’s heavy use of Diesel fuel in automotives centers around WWII developed tech that allows natural gas to be turned into diesel fuel.
Criticizing “climate control systems” in the US when most Europeans live in a climate that almost never has sustained temps above 32 C or below 0 C is disingenuous at best. Besides, Nest and their “learning thermostat” is a US company. If Americans like to waste energy endlessly on “climate control systems” why would the US be the location of a company that developed smart/learning thermostats?
To get more back on topic, if a person is interested in reducing harm to the natural environment, OVH is known to rely heavily on nuclear as France is also lacking in natural fossil fuel resources compared to North America, thus France invested heavily in nuclear and is the central power source for OVH, especially for their Paris data center.
The tone was not condescending at all. It was actually pretty civilized about doing an extremely civilized thing: turning off one’s electronic devices when they are not in use in order to keep the planet green.
Is this the only reply you’re going to give?
Help me understand your role in this conversation, please.
It seems like you are a “Plex Ninja”, but there’s no way to see what that even means: https://forums.plex.tv/g/ninjas
It’s so bizarre, like do nginx, apache, proftpd and other applications that allow remote sharing of files really need to justify or control the actions of their users? I’m sure somewhere in the world an installation of nginx is pumping out some type of clearly illegal content. Can’t see how that’s nginx’s problem at all…
It wasn’t meant to be condescending, as those stuff are understood as facts and not opinions in Europe. It was relevant to the subject because claiming you should continue running your electronic devices while you are not home is frowned upon in Europe, just like stocking weapons at home and banning Anne Frank comics.
On the contrary, an American implied that turning off unused electronic devices to save the planet does not make sense.
I am actually running my computer on solar energy. Subsidized by my local government. I also receive a substantial tax cut for using my bicycle instead of a big hairy SUV. Weird, right?
