I think the weakness of that is it does nothing about the *.plex.direct urls used to stream content and which have the server IP embedded in them unless you take further steps.
Bro, we already went over that fix. Someone brought up another scenario on how they could block and thatâs what THAT is. Not what youâre talking about.
@dennis_de Same goes for you. Thanks anyways.
Plex has the ability to block this in multiple ways which requires a multi-tier approach. If you canât discern one fix from another then itâs not for you.
Everybody needs to stop making pointless comments here because it doesnât matter. You either 1) work around it or 2) find new hosting or 3) leave
EDIT: I do NOT use hetzner nor do I have any skin in this game. I host at home and this isnât even my main account. Anything mentioned here is strictly hypothetical for the knowledge and conversation that comes with it. I simply enjoy network security.
I find it difficult to follow what it is youâre saying here but I agree that a multi-tier approach is required.
My intents are to use the GPL (if possible) as a shield. I used Plex Media Server legitimately on Hetznerâs server for mine and my householdâs own personal use.
If the GPL is meant to protect software rights, why shouldnât I use it to ensure I can use the software as freely as possible?
Your additional argument that I should have raised concerns before now doesnât hold water either. Youâre basically saying that because I didnât complain before that I canât complain now? Iâm not omnipotent - I can only care about issues as they become visible to me or impact me, and now this one does.
I understand how unlikely it is, but if I can use the GLPv2 or LGPL, as however unlikely as Iâm aware and brought up earlier in this thread, I will explore that option to defend my idealized rights to run the software I paid for as I see fit.
Does it clash with what Plex claims my rights are? Yes, and I realize that. Iâm still going to explore the option.
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If you donât see the value in having control over Plexâs source so we can compile our own version with our own authentication mechanism, I donât know what else to tell you.
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Their purity test is a distraction from the real issue. @pshanew wants to make up rules about how we must behave, and they have no authority over that.
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Has anyone found a simple way to only redirect, i.e a plex docker over wireguard?
There are many 2-3⏠VPS that offer 80TB/month traffic, which is plenty. Plex could also offer to whitelist IPs. Either way, I will write them once blocked to either whitelist or refund my 3x Plex Lifetime passes, as they are now useless to me.
Where I am from we have free legal teams that will fight for consumers, if they do not offer any options for legitimate users, I will forward this whole fiasco to them.
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Welp migrated just earlier today⊠What a depressing day. Iâm really hoping this ban doesnât come to be⊠But, didnât want to figure out a workaround day one.
So seems the ban is in place. Interestingly you can still watch your media as it redirects via the proxy, so is forced to transcode to 720p.
Iâm still able to access media fine over here.
Mine still seems fully accessible and plays everything Direct Play. I am guessing they will process the ban in stages. Has anyone tried to email Plex to request whitelisting their IP?
On a now-deleted thread, ChuckPa (listed as a member of the âPlex Teamâ or somesuch) was asked by a couple of people (one of them me) to whitelist our IPs and he vehemently insisted that that was not going to happen.
I wrote to them weeks ago asking the same thing and got no reply. So I wouldnât be too optimistic.
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Iâm not clear on what youâre saying. Are you saying that you put a reverse proxy in place and, as a result, are still able to stream but only at 720p?
Nail on the coffin then.
Jellyfin seems to work fine, been working on migrating since the announcement.
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If I were Plex the steps I would take to ban the Hetzner network are.
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Block all inbound requests for *.plex.tv by implementing waf rules at the cloudflare edge, if they come from the Hetzner asn. This will stop the server calling home and eventually itâs Auth token will expire (as all servers now have to be claimed).
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For the Plex direct domain, stop resolving those for any ips that are owned by Hetzner. This will stop clients being able to communicate with the server directly when attempting to stream.
The issue with doing the above is that the clients will try to connect via the Plex relay network instead, which will likely continue to work until they update that to restrict IPs too.
Iâve not checked if any of the above is the case, but with the stories of some people being forced through the relay I imagine that is whatâs happening.
It is all nonsense. It is only the normal innocent users the ones that suffer the consequences. The real bad users, the ones selling Plex services, they wonât be affected much, they either found a way to continue using Hetzner or move somewhere else.
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I imagine an unfathomably large DDoS attack if Plex pisses off the wrong people and theyâll never recover. But who am I to make predictions? Iâm just as dumb as Plex is.
Plex is shitfest that alot of us have accepted and used for longer periods of time.
If they insist on this â â â â with hetzner, and keep breaking the client half the time it have an update,
i just hope that enough brightminded tinkerers and whatever join up on jellyfin and the people who can should contribute making it superior. I never really thought that plex was perfect, i just thought that it had a few more âconvenientâ features. I belive that jellyfin can become better with more smart human beings working on it. Dont even have to do it with the current team of devs i guess its open source so just fork it and make ur own fin. If the original / current devs dont want you to push updates to there git whatever.
Instead of all this â â â â they should have brought back the ability to use plugins the way it used to work before. But ofcourse thats also a thing that opens up the door for piracy⊠Or does it have to perhaps there are ways around it making it possible to have plugins that are useful but not allowing piracy ones who know.
Sadly i think most of the people who run plex servers actually have a plex pass lifetime sub.
- I mean the people who run plex shares etc* Cuz its the cheaper option long term.
I also think alot of home server users also have lifetime ofcourse. Its cheaper long term.
And you most likely accept bullshit terms saying u can never get your money back. Ladidadada.
But just like sixxnet said above about ddos attacks i think they will have a few more security issues come to life because people are pissed and now dont care anymore.
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Strangely it seems like only transcoding is blocked?
Ayo so a question i got is this :
Plex dont allow you to use plex media server application / software whatever on hetzner because some of the users are sharing there large libraries of linux isos to the large masses and getting paid for it because well duh.
But they do allow you to download subtitles from opensubtitles.org and that is also a bad thing?
A swedish website by the name of undertexter.se (subtitles.se but in swedish cuz swedish site)
The owner of said website got sentenced for breaking the law lol for spreading said files.
Spreading subtitles that is. Both custom home made but he also spread the same like on opensubtitles.org ripped from dvd bluray webrips whatever.
My question is why plex think its good to offer a service for people to download what i suppose is illegal content even if just a .srt subtitle file.
Also here is a news articles in english regarding undertexter.se its rather old news tho.
The owner from what i guess got guilty of breaking the copyright law and got sentenced to a fine and probation rather then prison time.
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