How is nobody else bothered by this? I thought maybe it was only happening to me since I never see this discussed. Makes the pause feature basically worthless.
Pausing for too long of a duration will cause the playback to ‘time out’. It is not an indefinite hold. Should you wish to stop playback and resume, this is what On Deck is for.
Stopping within the final 5 minutes, typically when credits are being shown, is considered “the end”.
This is Live TV (from a PVR), not a recorded TV program. Playback doesn’t time out; it resumes correctly; it just stops before the end of the program. It doesn’t appear in On Deck (at least, I don’t think so; I don’t use On Deck).
I don’t wish to offend, but this (designed?) behavior is non-intuitive and unfriendly to the user. It is also unlike every other DVR ever made. Pause should stop until the hard disk is full or until I hit resume. No other behavior makes sense to anyone who has ever used a DVR before.
There is a part of the implementation underneath which most don’t see.
PMS starts recording the program even if you’re watching it live.
What you actually see is the “playback” of that temporary file.
This is what gives you the ability to timeshift.
If there is a fault in that logic (the playback portion), we can get it sorted out.
What you actually see is the “playback” of that temporary file.
I figured it would work something like that.
If there is a fault in that logic (the playback portion), we can get it sorted out.
Yeah, to my mind there is a fault there: it stops playing when the time hits the wall time of the end of the program, which means I miss the actual end of the program. It should time shift the end time by however much I’ve paused/rewound/skipped by.
I hope it can be sorted out. I moved from Windows 7 MC (which is still one of the best examples of PVR software, but unfortunately EOL) to Plex a couple of months ago, primarily for the Live TV support, and this is one difference (bug?) that I’m finding really jarring.
PMS 1.14.1.5488 on a Synology DS416play NAS. Client is 7.9.0.8439 on nVidia Shield.
Update: I just double-checked. It actually stops playback before the live program itself has actually stopped. If I’m quick, I can go back to the TV Guide and watch the end of the program, but (obviously) I miss the bit between when the paused/resumed playback gave up and realtime.
Thanks,
I will first PM the LiveTV dev team lead and see if this is known and/or resolved in the next update. If not, We will need logs (sadly) so they can track the events just in case it’s not easy to recreate for them but this sounds like a slam-dunk thing to do. A “Still Playing so Don’t Delete me yet” flag is not working correctly.
Sorry, I was interpreting your initial response as “works as designed, nothing to fix”, which I viewed with jaw-dropping incredulity. But I see now you were referring to generic playback behavior, not live-TV stuff.
Indeed, a question worthy of discussion. But the answer will hopefully default to many (user configurable?) hours, nothing less.
In fact, one should be able to pause live-TV in the Plex player app, change to another app (like Netflix) and then return to the Plex player and resume, right where they paused.
Plex LiveTV isn’t Netflix. Please do not try to make that assertion.
Netflix resume and Plex resume for anything you have FULLY recorded is the same.
The challenge becomes what to do with transient programs being viewed. Where do they get stored and how should they be managed?
This isn’t a question I can answer or will debate at this point. First, having spoken with the dev lead, there is an open issue. I have reached out to the engineering team member who reported it to learn more.
Ha, ha, yes, well you probably don’t want to hear the real “Live-TV pause” dream of many DVR users then… We should be able to pause Live-TV on one client and then resume it on any another! Pause on my big screen and resume on my ipad and then pause and resume back on the big screen again.
Yes, absolute pause&resume madness. But a common feature of some other DVRs. Stored and managed on my Plex server of course. That’s why I have big disks there. (not trolling, just dreaming)
