I give up on the app. Just using DLNA, and I just got a Chromecast that works so nice
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Damn, wished it so hard... damn you Panasonic! I can't believe that they refuse such things.. We have only ■■■■■■ Apps in Switzerland, now I know why..
Maybe Chromecast is the only solution.. Can you tell me how it works? Does it stream the files via WLAN or over the TV-Connection? And how to you control it? With Android-devices?
Damn, wished it so hard... damn you Panasonic! I can't believe that they refuse such things.. We have only ■■■■■■ Apps in Switzerland, now I know why..
Maybe Chromecast is the only solution.. Can you tell me how it works? Does it stream the files via WLAN or over the TV-Connection? And how to you control it? With Android-devices?
Nothing new VieraApp? Perhaps you have tried the suggestion of escalating the issue to a higher level within Panasonic?
Still refuse to believe that all your efforts have been in vain.
Regards.
Consider this project dead. It was escalated within Panasonic, and it was the escalation that rejected the app. I just received my new Roku Streaming Stick and am personally quite happy with it.
Consider this project dead. It was escalated within Panasonic, and it was the escalation that rejected the app. I just received my new Roku Streaming Stick and am personally quite happy with it.
Any other developers willing to pick up where VieraApp left off?
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Indeed, much appreciated. Panasonic can go screw themselves, I will not buy another one in the near future (wasn't planning on it since their plasma's come to an end).
I will keep following this topic from time to time to see if someone has found new possibilities (perhaps the idea of sharing your work so far can motivate someone).
Regards.
Thanks for the effort VieraApp! Really appreciate you putting up with the frustration for as long as you did.
Thoughts for moving forward with this:
Thoughts for moving forward with this:
1) Kickstarter - raise enough cash to pay for the development of the app from a freelance coder
2) Engage the developers who have already shown an interest in helping out here by starting a GitHub collaboration. That way it's all kept in the spirit of Plex (open) and no one person has to burden themselves with the full responsibility.
I'm no developer but I know the principals around all the technologies and can assist in the day to day project management etc.
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How would that help? The problem isn't with the development. The app is functional from what VieraApp wrote. The problem is that Panasonic is refusing to accept Plex onto the market.
No amount of money/work hours on the development side would help that. The only way is to physically get hold of someone who works in the app acceptance team for Panasonic and use them to get the app onto the market.
How would that help? The problem isn't with the development. The app is functional from what VieraApp wrote. The problem is that Panasonic is refusing to accept Plex onto the market.
No amount of money/work hours on the development side would help that. The only way is to physically get hold of someone who works in the app acceptance team for Panasonic and use them to get the app onto the market.
What are you talking about ?
The app has been refuse because it wasn't write with the panasonic API (or how panasonic want it to be write) so they have refuse and it is on their right.
The things we have to do, it is to find a way to pay the dev account and write the app like they want.
I am developper, I would like to do the app as free but I don't have the money for this.
What are you talking about ?
The app has been refuse because it wasn't write with the panasonic API (or how panasonic want it to be write) so they have refuse and it is on their right.
The things we have to do, it is to find a way to pay the dev account and write the app like they want.
I am developper, I would like to do the app as free but I don't have the money for this.
Uhm, read the thread properly please. The app was refused for using API that is used in the official Panasonic tutorials.
They obviously rejected the app because they have some other reasons to stop Plex support on their TVs. Competitive product perhaps.
If you want to waste your time and money on this endeavour, go ahead, it's your time and money to waste, just read this thread in its entirety before you commit.
How would that help? The problem isn't with the development. The app is functional from what VieraApp wrote. The problem is that Panasonic is refusing to accept Plex onto the market.
No amount of money/work hours on the development side would help that. The only way is to physically get hold of someone who works in the app acceptance team for Panasonic and use them to get the app onto the market.
Suggest you re-read the thread.
Yes what VieraApp wrote is functional, but Panasonic refused it because there were some issues around the APIs and libraries that had been used (even if they are "industry standard")! They want the app written to their rigid specification and if we can get app that follows their requirements rigidly, then we'd stand a better chance of seeing it hit the marketplace.
I can't believe that you feel that Panasonic just don't want it in their market place. That would be a very stupid move on their part.
Apple threw out Flash on iOS because it makes devices unstable. Panasonic are essentially trying to ensure that by sticking to their specifications that apps will maintain stability.
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Seriously? You won't even read one page back? This is a quote from page 16 in this thread:
Panasonic changed their story after that Slashdot submission. At that point, they objected to the jQuery $.ajax call. So I removed jQuery and used XMLHttpRequest directly. Then they "clarified" their position and said that XMLHttpRequest was also not legal and considered a "hack". Both of these are used in their tutorial.
Panasonic are essentially trying to ensure that by sticking to their specifications that apps will maintain stability.
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After following the thread from the start your comment isn't exactly true, the APIs used are the same as the ones they have in their developer demo code, so they are in essence saying here is some demo code to show how you can develop. So if you submitted the developer demo code you would get rejected for using APIs they won't accept even though their developer information says they will.
If it was just the API is not allowed it would be simple, however the API should be allowed the documentation indicates it should be allowed and they even use the APIs themselves however Plex was rejected for using them. Having this arbitrary rejection on what looks like a whim seems to be the main issue.
If things were black and white the problem wouldn't have occurred. However this arbitrary decisions with moving rules seems to be the main issue with developing for Pansonic which is a shame.
After following the thread from the start your comment isn't exactly true, the APIs used are the same as the ones they have in their developer demo code, so they are in essence saying here is some demo code to show how you can develop. So if you submitted the developer demo code you would get rejected for using APIs they won't accept even though their developer information says they will.
If it was just the API is not allowed it would be simple, however the API should be allowed the documentation indicates it should be allowed and they even use the APIs themselves however Plex was rejected for using them. Having this arbitrary rejection on what looks like a whim seems to be the main issue.
If things were black and white the problem wouldn't have occurred. However this arbitrary decisions with moving rules seems to be the main issue with developing for Pansonic which is a shame.
Seriously? You won't even read one page back? This is a quote from page 16 in this thread:
Not quite true. VieraApp stated that he had used jQuery and Panasonic had no idea what that was (even if it is an industry standard).
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If you read the thread both jquery and XMLHttpRequest are used in their tutorial. It's sad but it seems for some reason Panasonic are rejecting software that uses the same APIs as their sample code!
Anyway I am not really interested in this turning into an argument I just wanted to make it plain that VieraApp used the same APIs as Panasonic's own sample code yet got rejected which is to say the least confusing.
I would love to try and escalate this with Panasonic in some way to get clarity as I think the best way of getting any development off the ground is to get some conreate answers from Panasonic on the issues above before anyone else wastes any time on more development :(
Edwin
My only suggestions at this point are for VieraApp to show up at the next CES and basically trap the Panasonic reps in their booth until they can hunt people down who actually have a freaking clue and get some real answers, contact another developer who has successfully submitted apps to Panasonic and elicit their help, or get direct intervention from Élan who may be able to navigate higher up the Panasonic app development ladder to find out what the hell is going on over there.
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Mate I'm not looking for a bun fight.
I'm just a Panasonic customer who is looking for a way forward on getting a Plex app on my SmarTViera.
Seems like a lot of people are happy to just give up.
If you really want something, it's worth fighting for!
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Then please, be so kind, take the time and read the thread. You obviously didn't do that. And please stop claiming things that are explicitly false.
The bottom fact is that Panasonic refused the app for using the API they are using in the official tutorials.
You can keep hoping and invest money and time into this endeavour, as I already said. What I'm saying is: Beware, Panasonic refused the app for completely nonsensical reasons, even after this problem was escalated, this indicates that they don't want Plex on their TVs.
