@d0cx said:
Wait so, if I have a Plex Pass already, will this service be free + ACD costs, or it’s ANOTHER Plex Pass + ACD costs? I’m lost here.
You just need your normal plex pass account plus ACD subscription. You don’t need to buy another plexpass account.
Let me be more specific. I have a Plex Pass (Lifetime) account. Will I have access to Plex Cloud included or not?
Yes, but during the initial Beta it is invite only. Once that phase is done then it will be opened up to all PP users
Alright then. Sounds good.
Of course, Amazon could massively change their subscription model to the Cloud (especially if they start paying Plex an introducers commission). Then Plex will just tell us that it’s not Plex’s fault that costs have gone up.
Amazon could do that even if Plex never existed. It isn’t Plex’s fault if Amazon changes their subscription model, unless Plex buys out Amazon and starts controlling that company. No offense to Plex, but I don’t see them buying out Amazon any time soon.
@d0cx said:
Wait so, if I have a Plex Pass already, will this service be free + ACD costs, or it’s ANOTHER Plex Pass + ACD costs? I’m lost here.
You just need your normal plex pass account plus ACD subscription. You don’t need to buy another plexpass account.
Let me be more specific. I have a Plex Pass (Lifetime) account. Will I have access to Plex Cloud included or not?
Yes, but during the initial Beta it is invite only. Once that phase is done then it will be opened up to all PP users
Alright then. Sounds good.
Of course, Amazon could massively change their subscription model to the Cloud (especially if they start paying Plex an introducers commission). Then Plex will just tell us that it’s not Plex’s fault that costs have gone up.
Amazon could do that even if Plex never existed. It isn’t Plex’s fault if Amazon changes their subscription model, unless Plex buys out Amazon and starts controlling that company. No offense to Plex, but I don’t see them buying out Amazon any time soon.
I think you’ve missed the point. Amazon will be aware at what Plex is doing… hey they could both even be in bed together on this one. Either way, if Amazon starts seeing a huge increase in mass storage and streaming of such storage then they will change their model… and Plex using Amazon Cloud could be this trigger.
This solution makes the cost having 2 components, so Plex should be more transparent and make it clear that the costs of the Amazon part could easily change ‘tomorrow’. Launching Plex Cloud with just one provider leaves plex users open to ransom (especially if plex and amazon are in bed on this).
The launch of Plex Cloud with the sole provider of Amazon could absolutely be Plex’s fault if Amazon change their pricing structure.
Too many bad points with Plex Cloud to make it a viable offering. Good luck to those that wish to try it.
I am pretty sure Amazon will be aware of what Plex is up to, especially as you can no longer get access to the Amazon Drive API without justifying what you want it for…
@d0cx said:
Wait so, if I have a Plex Pass already, will this service be free + ACD costs, or it’s ANOTHER Plex Pass + ACD costs? I’m lost here.
You just need your normal plex pass account plus ACD subscription. You don’t need to buy another plexpass account.
Let me be more specific. I have a Plex Pass (Lifetime) account. Will I have access to Plex Cloud included or not?
Yes, but during the initial Beta it is invite only. Once that phase is done then it will be opened up to all PP users
Alright then. Sounds good.
Of course, Amazon could massively change their subscription model to the Cloud (especially if they start paying Plex an introducers commission). Then Plex will just tell us that it’s not Plex’s fault that costs have gone up.
Amazon could do that even if Plex never existed. It isn’t Plex’s fault if Amazon changes their subscription model, unless Plex buys out Amazon and starts controlling that company. No offense to Plex, but I don’t see them buying out Amazon any time soon.
I think you’ve missed the point. Amazon will be aware at what Plex is doing… hey they could both even be in bed together on this one. Either way, if Amazon starts seeing a huge increase in mass storage and streaming of such storage then they will change their model… and Plex using Amazon Cloud could be this trigger.
This solution makes the cost having 2 components, so Plex should be more transparent and make it clear that the costs of the Amazon part could easily change ‘tomorrow’. Launching Plex Cloud with just one provider leaves plex users open to ransom (especially if plex and amazon are in bed on this).
The launch of Plex Cloud with the sole provider of Amazon could absolutely be Plex’s fault if Amazon change their pricing structure.
Too many bad points with Plex Cloud to make it a viable offering. Good luck to those that wish to try it.
Right. I certainly agree that having a single provider is certainly a weakpoint in this service, unless Plex has some kind of deal worked out with Amazon to lock in costs (I doubt they have anything like that going on).
Frankly, I just want encryption support to be added so I can use this on my ACD without worrying about the actions ACD might take, even if I own legal copies of everything I upload.
@Wpcrumbley said:
what is the difference between plex cloud and cloud sync? I always wanted to use cloud sync but it was just too bugy
Cloud Sync was designed to have selected media synced to the cloud that you could watch when your Plex Media Server was offline or otherwise unavailable. As a sync service, this required original files to remain on your local storage and be transcoded into a DIRECTPLAY format before being uploaded.
Plex Cloud is a full-fledged Plex Media Server located in the cloud. Your media is hosted independently of your local storage and transcoding is done by servers in the cloud!
I have the same questions as @braintumor and I’d love to see them addressed. My interest in Plex Cloud is long term - as bandwidth and costs in the cloud eventually make running things locally inefficient - and that may already be the case for some people (but probably not the majority). The fundamental questions around encryption (not comfortable putting family pictures and videos up there without some assurances) and rights managements (can I send my Blu-ray rips up) are blockers for now…
@arionl said:
rights managements (can I send my Blu-ray rips up) are blockers for now…
I wonder what you think they could do? Or why their opinion on what is legal and what is not seems different than yours. I assume Plex is for playing disc rips and DVR recordings. So this feature should be too… so…
For me the problem is the word “unlimited storage” by ACD!!
I will never again trust a company who offers unlimited store.
What happened if they increase the cost buy factor 10? As Bitcasa has done? (WOW I hate Bitcasa so hard!!!)
Or they cut “unlimited” and change the account to “1TB”?? (Microsoft with One Drive) And you have uploaded 50 TB? Where to store them? And how to download 50 TB of Data??
@arionl said:
rights managements (can I send my Blu-ray rips up) are blockers for now…
I wonder what you think they could do? Or why their opinion on what is legal and what is not seems different than yours. I assume Plex is for playing disc rips and DVR recordings. So this feature should be too… so…
Well one problem I can foresee is that if I rip a Blu-ray or DVD at home for my own personal library there is a chance (and in theory a good chance, if it’s the same region and pressing) that it’ll match a release from a torrent group or something. Not something I have to think about today but if one day I was denied access to my own purchased media in the cloud I’d be pretty pissed…
@arionl said:
rights managements (can I send my Blu-ray rips up) are blockers for now…
I wonder what you think they could do? Or why their opinion on what is legal and what is not seems different than yours. I assume Plex is for playing disc rips and DVR recordings. So this feature should be too… so…
Well one problem I can foresee is that if I rip a Blu-ray or DVD at home for my own personal library there is a chance (and in theory a good chance, if it’s the same region and pressing) that it’ll match a release from a torrent group or something. Not something I have to think about today but if one day I was denied access to my own purchased media in the cloud I’d be pretty pissed…
This would be a new program that Amazon would have to start. They currently are not matching against Cloud Sync users. I’m sure we would have heard of people getting in trouble for using Cloud Sync over the past 2 years. I’m not saying things won’t change, but all signs point to this not being a problem… (And Plex even confirmed Amazon is fully aware of the coming feature.)
@d0cx said:
Wait so, if I have a Plex Pass already, will this service be free + ACD costs, or it’s ANOTHER Plex Pass + ACD costs? I’m lost here.
your existing PlexPass subscription is all you need, other than an ACD subscription
So you keep saying. @ASFx is saying so as well. Do any of you have any kind of information, such as a reference to an official statement by Plex, to back your respective opinion up?
Plex ninjas often alpha test or know about features before they are launched. From the fact he knew the link to a not yet release faq one would suspect he knows what he is talking about.
@d0cx said:
Wait so, if I have a Plex Pass already, will this service be free + ACD costs, or it’s ANOTHER Plex Pass + ACD costs? I’m lost here.
your existing PlexPass subscription is all you need, other than an ACD subscription
So you keep saying. @ASFx is saying so as well. Do any of you have any kind of information, such as a reference to an official statement by Plex, to back your respective opinion up?
@d0cx said:
Wait so, if I have a Plex Pass already, will this service be free + ACD costs, or it’s ANOTHER Plex Pass + ACD costs? I’m lost here.
your existing PlexPass subscription is all you need, other than an ACD subscription
So you keep saying. @ASFx is saying so as well. Do any of you have any kind of information, such as a reference to an official statement by Plex, to back your respective opinion up?
@Wpcrumbley said:
what is the difference between plex cloud and cloud sync? I always wanted to use cloud sync but it was just too bugy
Cloud Sync was designed to have selected media synced to the cloud that you could watch when your Plex Media Server was offline or otherwise unavailable. As a sync service, this required original files to remain on your local storage and be transcoded into a DIRECTPLAY format before being uploaded.
Plex Cloud is a full-fledged Plex Media Server located in the cloud. Your media is hosted independently of your local storage and transcoding is done by servers in the cloud!
So to be clear, if my goal is I am getting too many people I share my library with and my upload speed just can’t handle it, is this the solution?
So to be clear, if my goal is I am getting too many people I share my library with and my upload speed just can’t handle it, is this the solution?
It is one of a few things you could do.
You could use Cloud Sync, use Plex Cloud or you could get your own collocated box at a datacenter and install the regular Plex Media Server on it and managed it like a regular server.
