This sounds pretty cool, but currently trying to wrap my head around the Amazon Cloud Drive service (which I never used).
I see it has an initial upload option to get your media into their Cloud Drive. Is that it? Is there no sync option to monitor local files for changes (adds/edits/deletes) and get those updates out to Amazon? For people who currently use the service, do you manually go in and drag folders up every time a change happens? I’m confused by the apparent lack of sync option.
@ecd1973 said:
This sounds pretty cool, but currently trying to wrap my head around the Amazon Cloud Drive service (which I never used).I see it has an initial upload option to get your media into their Cloud Drive. Is that it? Is there no sync option to monitor local files for changes (adds/edits/deletes) and get those updates out to Amazon? For people who currently use the service, do you manually go in and drag folders up every time a change happens? I’m confused by the apparent lack of sync option.
Sadly there isn’t native drive capabilities like dropbox/googledrive with windows, but you can do that with third party software. I suspect most of us are just using rclone todo this.
Has anyone been invited to plex cloud yet? Still no one?
@l3uddz said:
@ecd1973 said:
This sounds pretty cool, but currently trying to wrap my head around the Amazon Cloud Drive service (which I never used).I see it has an initial upload option to get your media into their Cloud Drive. Is that it? Is there no sync option to monitor local files for changes (adds/edits/deletes) and get those updates out to Amazon? For people who currently use the service, do you manually go in and drag folders up every time a change happens? I’m confused by the apparent lack of sync option.
Sadly there isn’t native drive capabilities like dropbox/googledrive with windows, but you can do that with third party software. I suspect most of us are just using rclone todo this.
So rclone is a command line sync tool. You just run it on a schedule? Like hourly, or daily, etc?
@ecd1973 said:
@l3uddz said:
@ecd1973 said:
This sounds pretty cool, but currently trying to wrap my head around the Amazon Cloud Drive service (which I never used).I see it has an initial upload option to get your media into their Cloud Drive. Is that it? Is there no sync option to monitor local files for changes (adds/edits/deletes) and get those updates out to Amazon? For people who currently use the service, do you manually go in and drag folders up every time a change happens? I’m confused by the apparent lack of sync option.
Sadly there isn’t native drive capabilities like dropbox/googledrive with windows, but you can do that with third party software. I suspect most of us are just using rclone todo this.
So rclone is a command line sync tool. You just run it on a schedule? Like hourly, or daily, etc?
Yep thats what it is. Im sure there are ways of running it on a schedule, cron etc…
Im using it atm to upload my media to ACD, after that i’ll just run it once a week to upload new files. Have high hopes for this Plex Cloud, hopefully it works as well as it sounds. I’d like to know from the plex employees if this beta will rollover onto live once it goes live. Or is there a potential that the whole idea gets scrapped? Or when it goes out of beta, will our current cloud instances disappear and have to be setup again, or will they keep spinning. Too many unknowns at the moment, but definitely excited to try this out.
A couple of random thoughts/comments (apologies if discussed previously):
It would make sense the Plex team would have long ago met with the Amazon team when launching a product of this nature; for legal, business and technical reasons. So in that regard, there should be no surprises to Amazon and perhaps Plex Cloud was considered a tool by Amazon to sell Amazon Drive accounts.
Presumably Plex Cloud is running off Amazon EC2 instances which, for those interested, the pricing can be reviewed here. If this is the case, then Plex would have researched and figured out a business model around this pricing that jives with their Plex Pass pricing.
All speculation on my part - I could be completely out-to-lunch.
anyone get plex cloud?
i make the register but dont receive nothing about that.
@l3uddz said:
@ecd1973 said:
This sounds pretty cool, but currently trying to wrap my head around the Amazon Cloud Drive service (which I never used).I see it has an initial upload option to get your media into their Cloud Drive. Is that it? Is there no sync option to monitor local files for changes (adds/edits/deletes) and get those updates out to Amazon? For people who currently use the service, do you manually go in and drag folders up every time a change happens? I’m confused by the apparent lack of sync option.
Sadly there isn’t native drive capabilities like dropbox/googledrive with windows, but you can do that with third party software. I suspect most of us are just using rclone todo this.
Watch out for these; there’s tons of reports about people having issues with them (low speed, transfer errors, corrupt files…), especially for streaming and other random-access of the files. Netdrive 2.x seems to be the best choice.
I am curious about the server itself. These will have to run on EC2 instances, as civuck mentioned, but how do they determine the instance chosen? Will it be elastic to account for more streams/transcodes? Will we have to pay for more power?
@civuck said:
@braintumor said:
By the way, renaming the file (illegal downloaded movie) will not help, usually the files are identified on the file hash value
Would this not require Amazon to constantly acquire all newly released pirated media so they knew what file hash values to scan for on user cloud drives?
I don’t how amazon will do it, but usually companies like amazon use databases that have all the pirated hash information.
Even though if amazon respects your privacy, I wouldn’t be surprised that accounts with known pirated files will be flagged and as soon as the user does one slight thing wrong, your account will be blocked or worst case all the information will be forwarded to the MPAA or the legal department.
The best thing to do if you use pirated content (even if you own the bluray/dvd), is to remux the files to make sure that file hash changes before uploading them, so your account will not be flagged from the beginning.
Encryption might be another option, but I don’t trust it too much either…
@SuperSecret said:
I am curious about the server itself. These will have to run on EC2 instances
I’m pretty sure they use the Amazon Elastic Transcoder Service:
Media Transcoding - Amazon Elastic Transcoder - AWS
@Wiidesire said:
@SuperSecret said:
I am curious about the server itself. These will have to run on EC2 instances
I’m pretty sure they use the Amazon Elastic Transcoder Service:
Media Transcoding - Amazon Elastic Transcoder - AWS
we don’t. ( i’m not going to be providing details of how the Plex Cloud works in the background )
@BigWheel said:
we don’t. ( i’m not going to be providing details of how the Plex Cloud works in the background )
Interesting, thanks for the clarification.
Are you thinking about the possibility to expand the partnership with Amazon to provide paid Amazon Video content to Plex Cloud?
This would be the first real 100% legal way to get content besides Plex DVR.
I’d love to just buy TV Show Seasons on Amazon and have them show up on Plex Cloud.
Feature request here: https://forums.plex.tv/discussion/235354/paid-amazon-video-content-in-plex-cloud
@BigWheel said:
@Wiidesire said:
@SuperSecret said:
I am curious about the server itself. These will have to run on EC2 instances
I’m pretty sure they use the Amazon Elastic Transcoder Service:
Media Transcoding - Amazon Elastic Transcoder - AWSwe don’t. ( i’m not going to be providing details of how the Plex Cloud works in the background )
Can’t we get just a LITTLE detail…
While this sounds incredibly enticing, I’m not touching it with a bargepole without resting encryption.
@BigWheel said:
i’m not going to be providing details of how the Plex Cloud works in the background
Why not? For your intended customer base, the “how” of this would be critical information to the decision-making process.
I have no personal interest in using Plex Cloud personally, but I’ve put on-hold a $2K upgrade to my NAS storage until I’m sure Plex isn’t going to be sued out of business by this for being an enabler/facilitator of copyright infringement. I have a really bad feeling about this… it paints a huge target on Plex and the MPAA is going to take notice fast.
no it’s not. you do not need to know how it transcodes just that it does.
@SuperSecret said:
I am curious about the server itself. These will have to run on EC2 instances, as civuck mentioned, but how do they determine the instance chosen? Will it be elastic to account for more streams/transcodes? Will we have to pay for more power?
Not Necessarily as many instances as you think. It’s not hard to dockerize Plex.
@BigWheel said:
no it’s not. you do not need to know how it transcodes just that it does.
I couldn’t care less how it transcodes, but I would love to get some clarity from Plex around the main issues discussed in this thread.
the question i was originally answering ( i quoted it ) was regarding if it runs on EC2 servers or what. I am not going to get into technical details of how it runs.
As far as what you can upload as stated previously Amazon’s policies apply. We are not going to babysit you and what you upload. What you upload is your decision and your responsibility.
