Plex cloud RIP

I think those Amazon guidelines have more to do with dealing with ransomware and inability to use the encrypted customer data without the use of an encryption tool. Imagine if you can access your data in the cloud by using said app only.

Besides, Amazon doesn’t enforce this provision if the user chooses to encrypt their data. Tools like rclone (that allows you to crypt) are perfectly safe to use in that sense.

@zan79 said:

As for it being illegal to extract your own DVDs, that would also mean Plex is illegal because it’s only purpose, especially auto indexing media from public data sources, is solely useful for making convenient copyright infringement on an industrial scale.

Plex and other content players, by existing, do not equate to being illegal. I recommend you research all this more to understand the difference between the software having the “potential” to play copyrighted material vs. whether one chooses to do so.

Nevertheless, that is a tangent because what’s really the issue here is whether a line is crossed when that same backed up content moves —>> from the storage in your private home ---->>to being hosted on Amazon (or other company)

You may feel very strongly about “rights”, etc. but they (Cloud) would have no great incentive to defend your position one way or the other to copyright owners and would not want the liability.

Is it possible to request a new invite ?
I have unlimited google drive wich i dit not mention
in me first request

@cornaat said:
Is it possible to request a new invite ?
I have unlimited google drive wich i dit not mention
in me first request
See this.

@sremick said:
A lot of very bright minds on these forums pointed out from the beginning that this was not a sustainable business model and was doomed as something would have to give. The only surprise was how quickly they were proven right.

It’d be nice if these smart people and their insight weren’t so frequently dismissed, ridiculed, insulted, and so on. They have a solid track record.

I so agree with you.
This was born to fail !!!

You’re all dancing on a non existent grave here… Plex Cloud is alive and kicking, although without Amazon, which admittedly is a huge blow. However there is no indication (yet!) that they will scrap the cloud project altogether.

I would love to get a copy of the customised cloud install to run on one of my VPS

look running your own Plex server in the cloud works well.

My model works well there is a cloud vendor with 80% off right now once off fee you by the 8 Vcore box for 224 US once off payment or the 112, 6 vcore.

Then mount ACD or any provider with Rclone yes encryption turned on done.

Please release a Beta copy of the Cloud install

or Pm me a link to the install shhh want tell :slight_smile:

@per_PLEX_ed said:
You’re all dancing on a non existent grave here… Plex Cloud is alive and kicking, although without Amazon, which admittedly is a huge blow. However there is no indication (yet!) that they will scrap the cloud project altogether.

i agree, it is still going strong with the other providers.

@zan79 said:
I suspect you’ll find the reason they don’t like encryption is because it completely eliminates their ability to use compression and deduplication to reduce storage requirements.

I doubt that Amazon uses file level dedup, but instead utilizes block level dedup. As such encryption is a non factor. Same goes for compression.

Are invitations still being sent out?

@rosstilley said:
Are invitations still being sent out?

Yes indeed. I just got an invite yesterday.

enjoy your Xmas gift :slight_smile:

@fbrassin said:

@martinbowling said:
120 a year will get you unlimited google drive either on your own in g suite unlimited or join one of the many groups around that have gotten together

Can you suggest where to go to find a group?

@fbrassin said:

@martinbowling said:
120 a year will get you unlimited google drive either on your own in g suite unlimited or join one of the many groups around that have gotten together

Can you suggest where to go to find a group?

Looking at starting my own if I get enough interested people

PM me and I’ll put you on list

@krpan said:

@zan79 said:
I suspect you’ll find the reason they don’t like encryption is because it completely eliminates their ability to use compression and deduplication to reduce storage requirements.

I doubt that Amazon uses file level dedup, but instead utilizes block level dedup. As such encryption is a non factor. Same goes for compression.

Unless the same file is encrypted with the same key and the same algorithm, blocks will be unique with a 2^block_size_in_bits certainty (which will be infinitesimally distant from 100% certainty). Similarly, bit distribution in an encrypted block will be very close to completely random. Encryption algorithms are specifically designed to ensure that, in order to prevent any kind of data fingerprinting attack.

So yes, encryption will comprehensively defeat any deduplication and compression happeneing underneath it.

@enigma2me said:
Agreed. Current cloud solutions are just too expensive (Dropbox wants $700/year for unlimited storage). It owuld be great if Plex could negotiate a cloud solution with more than just one or a few terabytes of data.

Doesn’t this link say its $15/mo or $180/year for unlimited? Am I missing something?

@hatflix said:

@enigma2me said:
Agreed. Current cloud solutions are just too expensive (Dropbox wants $700/year for unlimited storage). It owuld be great if Plex could negotiate a cloud solution with more than just one or a few terabytes of data.

Doesn’t this link say its $15/mo or $180/year for unlimited? Am I missing something?

https://www.dropbox.com/business/plans-comparison

Yes you are missing something:
For a business account which is the only unlimited one:

Billed annually
$12.50 / user / month
$750 charged annually
$900 (save 17%)

Billed monthly
$15 / user / month
$75 charged monthly

The minimum package comes with 5 licenses. You can activate your extra licenses at any time.

You cannot activate with fewer than 5 users.

Well my Australia ISP fixed my Plex issue. Keep your cloud and cloud storage . not interested in Plex cloud anymore ( last years bad smell) plenty of cheap good service out there doing this .

when my is is giving Assie’s 200/200 Mbps link speeds

You’re all too funny looking at G Suite Unlimited. Have you even read the conditions?

It has a 300MB/hour 500MB/day upload limit, and people get their account disabled crossing that too often. Good luck putting your series and movies there. In my case I have 4TB of data to put on storage. That would amount to 8388 days…or 22.9 years.

I bet in 23 years, there will be a better solution so I’ll just wait for that. In the mean time I’ll build my own cloud, which is nothing more than a file server reachable from the internet.

G Suite business doesnt have those limits and its 10bucks a month and unlimited storage.
Uploaded 30GB yesterday just for testing.

I’ve been uploading 60GB/day for months now to my G Suite account. Still waiting to be disabled.