Plex Media Player and Rasplex

With the recently announced/released Plex Media Player and the EOL announcement of PHT, what will be the direction of Rasplex?

I will be evaluating the new bits, but will hang on to Rasplex due to Lightpack and Hyperion.

I think there’s room for more than one RPi client.

Plex Inc have moved away from Kodi, and playback quality, both audio and video is, in my opinion, having used PMP for a couple of hours today, poor quality.

Watch out for Rasplex 2.0!

Regards

Glad to hear that. Rasplex with my RPi2, is a nearly perfect solution today.

@NedtheNerd said:
I think there’s room for more than one RPi client.

Plex Inc have moved away from Kodi, and playback quality, both audio and video is, in my opinion, having used PMP for a couple of hours today, poor quality.

Watch out for Rasplex 2.0!

Regards

RASPLEX 2.0??? 1.0 has still to be released haha! In what opinion poor quality compared to PHT Rasplex may I ask?

@NedtheNerd said:
I think there’s room for more than one RPi client.

100% agree! We hope that PHT will live on by teams like rasplex!

Plex Inc have moved away from Kodi, and playback quality, both audio and video is, in my opinion, having used PMP for a couple of hours today, poor quality.

Can you elaborate on this? What’s poor quality with the playback?

@tobiashieta said:
Can you elaborate on this? What’s poor quality with the playback?

Movies and TV shows are not as ‘vivid’, ‘cinematic’, colours are muted and the image has less contrast, which player are you using?

Audio on passthrough for movies and TV shows is fine, problem is with music tracks, the sound is slightly distorted, fuzzy, my RPi goes direct via HDMI to my Sony AV amp then to TV via HDMI. Clear as a bell using Rasplex! Have tried m4a and mp3 files, both are affected the same, will be trying flac and lossless wha files later.

Regards

@NedtheNerd said:
Audio on passthrough for movies and TV shows is fine, problem is with music tracks, the sound is slightly distorted, fuzzy, my RPi goes direct via HDMI to my Sony AV amp then to TV via HDMI.

Actually, I have seen the same. I go HDMI to Sony TV, then optical into my amp.
In movies this is rarely an issue, since these very seldom reach maximum level.
But music is loudness maximised these days, so it very often reaches full scale (or 0dBfs).

My “amp” is actually a USB sound interface. I can analyze what’s coming in and goes out. And the input coming from the Sony TV is clearly clipped, leading to hearable distortion.
To prevent this I could only reduce the internal mixer in the RasPi.
ssh into the device and issue amixer set -- 'PCM',0 -130

The ‘-130’ equals to -1.3dB, the value was determined by me through listening and analysing for clipping with my sound interface.
You can probably raise it a little bit higher, but not much if you intend to listen to music a lot.

So I am unable to playback full resolution Bluray rips in MKV containers! It stutters and buffers and the audio runs out of sync. Just FYI it has been running very smooth on Rasplex since version 0.6.0 for me. I’ll stick with Rasplex 0.7.1 for now. I am sure they will figure it out eventually. I am also in no hurry to switch to the new GUI.

@tobiashieta said:
Can you elaborate on this? What’s poor quality with the playback?

Quick update, I am trialing PMP on one of my spare RPi2’s and just grabbed any old HDMI lead, have changed that for brand new one and the audio distortion has gone. Has not affected the video issue, I have tried the ‘limited’ and ‘full’ options in mov.conf, doesn’t make any perceivable difference. I have noticed that other users are also having this issue.

Regards

@chenks said:
guess there is no way for non Plex Pass users to play with this.

No, Plex Inc’s way of doing preview releases is PlexPass users only, at the moment (IMHO) best to stick with Rasplex, new release coming soon!

Regards

Yes, it checks you have a PlexPass, if you haven’t it won’t run.

Regards

@tobiashieta said:
Can you elaborate on this? What’s poor quality with the playback?

After reading through some of the more interesting posts in the Plex Media Player forum I have created a mov.conf file in /storage/.local/share/plexmediaplayer/ and added the following lines:

 vo-defaults=opengl-cb:scale=ewa_ginseng:scale-antiring=0.75:cscale=ewa_ginseng:dither-depth=auto:temporal-dither:dscale=mitchell:sigmoid-upscaling:fancy-downscaling:deband:interpolation:tscale=oversample 

The difference in quality in the video playback is amazing, much more ‘cinematic’.

Suggest looking at this topic https://forums.plex.tv/discussion/comment/1041355#Comment_1041355

Regards

@NedtheNerd said:
video-output-levels=full

This is the default. (Also, this option is broken right now, so setting it to limited does nothing. Will be fixed in the next release.)

pbo

I hear that this helps a lot with nvidia cards and high resolutions, but makes things worse for other cards. So it’s a double-edged sword.

@vlang said:
I hear that this helps a lot with nvidia cards and high resolutions, but makes things worse for other cards. So it’s a double-edged sword.

Thanks for the feedback, I’ve removed the pbo entry, no change to the vast improvement from adding to the mpv.conf.

Ah well, back to testing Rasplex V2 (totally based on Isengard), new Plex Media Player is nice but nowhere near as functionally rich as Rasplex at the moment and I think it will take some time to get there. Don’t get disheartened by the comments in the PMP forum, if we didn’t accept change we would still be living in caves, dressed in animal skins and walking everywhere!!! :)>-

Regards

Far from it, Rasplex is OpenELEC (OS) with Plex Home Theatre (which is still at Frodo) with a lot of custom code and optimisations for the RPi.

Regards

@NedtheNerd said:
Far from it, Rasplex is OpenELEC (OS) with Plex Home Theatre (which is still at Frodo) with a lot of custom code and optimisations for the RPi.

Regards

Ah… That explains why PlexPy reports that my RasPlex player uses Plex Home Theater as platform :slight_smile: