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It would be nice to watch TV on Google TV 
Honestly i don't understand what is being requested here. a Transport Stream is a different encoding format for a Program Stream. One is meant to be transferred over the internet and the other from a local file where bandwidth is not a concern.
If you want live TV, go get a cable subscription. If you want live tv on anything, go get a sling box. I have plex for streaming of static content and files on my home computer. There are a metric ton of other products out there with plenty of support that handle Live TV anywhere.
OrionShock you are using Plex in probably the most minimal way possible.
Since Plex has clients on Blueray players, PC, browsers, tablets and Smartphones and already transcodes some stream formats it is a fairly valid request for users who may or may not already have a Software DVR setup (on Cable, Sat, OTA) to want to stream that content to all those Plex clients .
@lazybones : I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about when it comes to maximizing my use of Plex when you say i have such a minimal usage. At its core, Plex really only Transcodes and Remuxes Static AV Files into a convenient format that client devices and playback.
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When it comes to distributing LiveTV to clients, you have one major problem there, you have to get the Live TV program onto your computer to begin with. Everything I have found that does this whole "TV to Computer" bit is a Video Capture Device of one sort or another. That system is not going to easily give you a Transport Stream to manipulate. If it did, pirating would be 100% easier!
If you are wanting to in real time, capture the Live TV Audio and Video (Probably in a RAW format or at worst a large MPEG2 Video & PCM Audio Program Stream), Transcode it to something usable & then mux it into a Transport Stream to the client. They make Slingboxes, they work really well. Those Video Capture Devices aren't going to give you much better when it comes to quality, cost about the same and have other problems with using them (like dealing with your provider to get it working, Setting up a DVR system that isn't Windows Media Center and figuring out that some files still have DRM)
If you are asking to somehow pull the RAW MPEG Transport Stream off the Coax, regardless of Cable, Satellite or Over The Air, you can stop right there. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN, stop asking. Them Deep Pocketed Broadcasters fight tooth and nail to prevent you from having access to it in any way.
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Now that I've gone back and reread the forum link and checked out DVBLogic's website. It seems to me, you are not asking for LiveTV to be baked into PMS directly, but more support for transcoding video from an outside source. The DVBLogic Plugin that is linked still requires their software to run and some form of capture device to be usable.
Now that I've gone back and reread the forum link and checked out DVBLogic's website. It seems to me, you are not asking for LiveTV to be baked into PMS directly, but more support for transcoding video from an outside source. The DVBLogic Plugin that is linked still requires their software to run and some form of capture device to be usable.
Well, exactly. DVBLogic is taking care of the direct media interface... and that could be a sat, cable, OTA, H.264 (IPTV or other streaming source). But as DVBLogic does make it's live channel outputs available, and if you select one PLEX will even make a stab at trying to display it... but presently this fails. Recorded shows transcode just fine... and interestingly, DVBLink will need to stream these to PLEX as well... but somehow there must be a difference between the recorded and live streams. And this could well be an issue with DVBLink as well -- the integration is considered beta.
I would frankly prefer to have DVBLink integrated this way. I have had PLEX watching DVBLink's output folder on my NAS for a while... but this sometimes results in unpredictable behavior since PLEX tries to index a file that DVBLink is still recording. It mostly works, but is flaky. Why not just let them integrate? :) DVBLink does what it's good at (providing access to media sources and DVR) and PLEX does what it's good at... live transcode for display on a multiude of devices. :)
Well, exactly. DVBLogic is taking care of the direct media interface... and that could be a sat, cable, OTA, H.264 (IPTV or other streaming source). But as DVBLogic does make it's live channel outputs available, and if you select one PLEX will even make a stab at trying to display it... but presently this fails. Recorded shows transcode just fine... and interestingly, DVBLink will need to stream these to PLEX as well... but somehow there must be a difference between the recorded and live streams. And this could well be an issue with DVBLink as well -- the integration is considered beta.
I would frankly prefer to have DVBLink integrated this way. I have had PLEX watching DVBLink's output folder on my NAS for a while... but this sometimes results in unpredictable behavior since PLEX tries to index a file that DVBLink is still recording. It mostly works, but is flaky. Why not just let them integrate? :) DVBLink does what it's good at (providing access to media sources and DVR) and PLEX does what it's good at... live transcode for display on a multitude of devices. :)
Probably because the recorded shows are being transferred as program stream or accessed directly & the live ones are the broken Transport Stream that only half the plex clients can understand natively.
I can get behind letting them each do what their best at and having plex transcode the Transport Stream from DVBLink. I am not for integrating some sort of "LiveTV/EPG & Handle-the-Capture-Card" being baked into PMS Core.
Honestly i don't understand what is being requested here. a Transport Stream is a different encoding format for a Program Stream. One is meant to be transferred over the internet and the other from a local file where bandwidth is not a concern.
If you want live TV, go get a cable subscription. If you want live tv on anything, go get a sling box. I have plex for streaming of static content and files on my home computer. There are a metric ton of other products out there with plenty of support that handle Live TV anywhere.
Plex is also used when bandwidth is a problem - if streaming stored content to devices which either cannot display a hires/high-bitrate stream or to devices which have a slow link (WiFi or 3G). Also, local content can also be stored as a transport stream (recorded TV).
I have a couple of SAT STBs (enigma based) in my house, and already use Plex to watch my personal movie Library on PCs, Macs, tablets and mobile phones. Live content does not differ much from local content. Local content uses a file handler which points to a local or shared filesystem, Live content uses a file handle which points to a http handler. The only difference between these is that live content does not support skip or FF and that there is no known length of the program.
Plex already creates a local buffer when transcoding. It even does it for a transport stream together with the dreambox plugin. It only refuses to send it to the client for an unknown reason (guess: input slower then expected, or because input is not seekable ?).
For me, that means that not much is missing to successful transcode a live transport stream in Plex.
It is correct, that solutions exist to make this work outside of Plex, and I already have one. But then I have to run two media servers and use two different clients to access my media on my mobile devices (Plex and VLC+QTSS). If this functionality could be integrated in Plex, with a probably (small ?) effort, that would be great.
I don't care about transcoding the live tv mpeg2 stream (in my case) because I buy devices that support mpeg2. I would love plex to interface with mythtv so I can watch live tv on my devices (and be rid of the crappy cable box) and have an EPG too (or in GoogleTV's case, use the PrimeTime mini guide).
Getting a slingbox (yuck) would defeat the point of getting rid of the cable box, and add yet another box.
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It's needed for DVBLink Live TV support.
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Dvblink Channel RC just released. With Guide support!
Other news:
- Timer and single recording programming from Guide
- Separate group for radio channels
- Guide search
- Scheduled recordings overview and management
right. new version: http://forum.dvblogic.com/viewtopic.php?f=94&t=25951
yeah, they do, what they can. but it's almost useless without transcoding transport streams.
- Plex transcoder cannot transcode transport stream, which means that mobile live and recorded TV viewing using Plex clients is currently not possible. The issue is known at Plex and has been reported some time ago also for other clients delivering transport stream, but has not been solved yet.
it's out of beta
the fullversion is downloadable here
i hope it finds his way to the Plex-Channel-Store :/
but still no transcode of transport streams :(
Well, DVBLogic can't fix that. ;)
i know.. i just meant that Plex still not support it. so it's still almost useless. okay, i think u can record now. but thats not really what i want.
I think we're very alike in our thinking and desires in this matter. :D
+1 for me as well!
i read something, that LiveTV is already possible for Clients who don't need to transcode. So NOT transcoded transport streams seems to be working. Then it should work for PHT, or not?!
Did anybody tried some clients yet?
