Recent Design Choices From Plex

Something is happening with this thread.
It is getting new posts.
The posts get listed as the latest in the forum view.
But the thread never moves to the top of the forum.

Has something happened to assure that it will drift down and eventually of the top pages?

@elan said:
Well, I’m definitely hearing your frustration loud and clear. Pretty sure there’s nothing I can say here to help that, so I’m going to bow out of this thread for now.

Yep, I actually figured you weren’t coming back to even acknowledge there are frustrations, Elan. That seems to be the history with members of the Team, from past experiences. Drop in, and then run out when asked for hard data to support the Team’s direction
 It seems to be the norm the last few months.

Oh well, enough worrying over something I can’t change. All I can do is move forward and hope that the Plex Gods shine on us poor users and actually start working on Feature Requests again.

@Elijah_Baley said:
Has something happened to assure that it will drift down and eventually of the top pages?

It’s called control, the mod’s have done this before with other topics that are critical of Plex Inc.

They don’t want any one else to add their views, you know what they say - ’ Out of sight, out of mind.’

Regards

@elan said:
Wow, there’s a lot of misunderstanding.

Tends to happen when there is lack of communication.

Thanks for jumping in the thread to answer, but it’s always the same complaining and always the same answers
 Yet we don’t see the results.

I don’t expect the Plex team to become more open or publish a road map, you had ample time to so that and didn’t
 But you have to realize there will always be a vocal part of this community that will complain because they don’t get solutions to their problems, or clear answers to their questions.

@Elijah_Baley said:
Something is happening with this thread.
It is getting new posts.
The posts get listed as the latest in the forum view.
But the thread never moves to the top of the forum.

Has something happened to assure that it will drift down and eventually of the top pages?

Wow talk about censorship @elan you need to undo whatever you guys did to move the thread down out of view. That’s dishonest and not cool. Are users not allowed to have critical discussions of Plex? After all this is not meant to be a bashing thread and never was intended to be.

Seeing what many of the users think about the direction you are headed would seem like a beneficial thing. Especially coming from users who’ve been here a very long time.

From my understanding, the forum software automatically “buries” threads that are deemed unconstructive due to the number of dislikes/wtf’s
of which this thread has many. Not everything is a conspiracy.

Seems to my count that the insightfuls and likes far outweigh the dislikes and WTF’s by a large amount!

Agreed
but I would imagine the algorithm is more complex than a static number of dislikes/wtf’s. My point is that if the mods really wanted to “censor” this thread
they probably would have locked or deleted it rather than actively suppress it while simultaneously letting people voice their outrage about it.

@DFury said:
Agreed
but I would imagine the algorithm is more complex than a static number of dislikes/wtf’s. My point is that if the mods really wanted to “censor” this thread
they probably would have locked or deleted it rather than actively suppress it while simultaneously letting people voice their outrage about it.

I’ve seen some threads with tons more WTF’s and dislikes than this one that still jump back to the top of the forum when a post is made. How many WTF’s or dislikes does it take for this to happen if that’s indeed what occurred?

@DFury said:
Agreed
but I would imagine the algorithm is more complex than a static number of dislikes/wtf’s. My point is that if the mods really wanted to “censor” this thread
they probably would have locked or deleted it rather than actively suppress it while simultaneously letting people voice their outrage about it.

I have seen that pointed out as well but in this case I do not believe it. I think the Plex deities took action to suppress this thread hoping that no one would notice. They failed and some of us did notice.

They need to man up and admit it as a mistake and retract that action. It is cowardly not to do so.

I read that this is now active again so I will put a post here to test and say that Plex has responded correctly to the improper sinking of this thread.

Have asked a mod to close the other topic https://forums.plex.tv/discussion/216870/recent-design-choices-by-plex-resurrection#latest as running two topics for the same subject rather silly and does not focus discussions.

Regards

@MikeG6.5 said:

So, please, remind us how many votes the new search function had on it’s requests? Can you link to the posts? How many votes did the new Discovery get in it’s request? Again, can we get a link to that request, too? As much as I like the OM feature, I’m still wanting to see the Feature Request for that one, too. I’m sure you have counts on it as well?

Because I made the request to see discovery on Plex/Web i’ll chime in. There were 2, from me and Cayars, last time I looked. Haven’t looked since because it get’s berried rather quickly.

http://forums.plex.tv/discussion/158815/implemented-feature-request-discovery-mode-plexweb#latest

Yup, still 2.

"Maybe allow us to hide and arrange it like the other areas? " This was obviously ignored.

My frustrations are similar MikeG6.5. Just thought I’d add my 2 cents to the matter. I’ve seen, and can quite easily pull up a few area’s where design decisions have not been given a reason as to why. Horizontal scrolling for one, If I’ve missed it somewhere then feel free to point it out, but why!? I don’t get how this is a feasible way to view large media libraries like you know a lot of us have.

There use to be someone going around the forums find all the 0 reply threads as well, and at least giving a reply. Has this stopped recently? or has it just become too unmanageable? I frequent the sub reddit quite a lot and peoples opinions of the forums there are they just get ignored.

So this feature was implemented following two likes on your feature request, come on!

Regards

Scrolling horizontally makes no sense at all, IMO. We read vertically from left to right, top to bottom. Now with Plex, we have to read left to right and then scroll the same way. It seems counter-intuitive.

Start at the top of the page, just as every other web site, magazine, book or anything else we read does, and scroll down as we need or want to view different content.

Some say this might be easier to navigate with certain devices, but it’s so damned frustrating to have to remember things are different than how we all learned to read to begin with.

And yeah
 2 “Likes” and the feature gets made, when there are features out there 2+ years old with a great many times that number of votes still waiting? Road Map! Just reinforcing the point of view some of us have already expressed.

@MikeG6.5 said:
Scrolling horizontally makes no sense at all, IMO. We read vertically from left to right, top to bottom. Now with Plex, we have to read left to right and then scroll the same way. It seems counter-intuitive.

We hear you loud and clear, we’re moving away from that.

@elan said:

@MikeG6.5 said:
Scrolling horizontally makes no sense at all, IMO. We read vertically from left to right, top to bottom. Now with Plex, we have to read left to right and then scroll the same way. It seems counter-intuitive.

We hear you loud and clear, we’re moving away from that.

YESSSSssssss
 (Two or three releases ago would not be soon enough - Thanx) :smiley:

One man’s meat is another man’s poison and all that
 I like the horizontal scrolling.

I will resist the temptation to complain endlessly about it though once it’s gone :smiley:

Horizontal scrolling was a design choice by Plex and not based on any user requirement. It was based on the fact that that is how Netflix et al work and so Plex was mirroring that.

This was confirmed by Plex when Roku first went that way.

We already know that PMP will revert as the UI team have confirmed that (along with having 3 rows). Hopefully Elan’s comment above means this will also be rolled out to the other clients too.

@NedtheNerd said:

@shopgirl284 said:
But if you truly hate the official player app Plex has developed, you can write your own. Plex provides the API to access PMS.

This does not just relate to one official player app, it’s all of the current official client apps and now PlexWeb!

As a ‘Roku user’ you must have noticed from that forum section that there are more ‘haters’ of the ‘new’ Roku client than ‘lovers’, the same can be seen in every forum section for the official Plex clients.

It’s a job job that some of us keep the unofficial Plex clients going, two of the best Plex clients being OpenPHT and Rasplex, now both from the Rasplex team. Now that we are able to change PHT we have fixed a lot of long standing issues and provided much needed new functionality to keep driving forward the best Plex experience for the ‘10 foot era’ as well as satisfying the need for a PC/Mac based media player.

If you don’t like where Plex Inc is going stick with Rasplex/OpenPHT.

But then, I’m biased! :wink:

Regards

I for one cannot wait for OpenPHT to implement all the scaling Kodi 16 Jarvis has, with OpenPHT 1.6.0. Glad there are people out there maintaining projects. :slight_smile: