how do we know id they are doing OK ?
i don’t understand. What information do you have ?
plex didn’t take away features that paid members had.
i purchased life time plex pass and i am happy.
Plex is not perfect, but i use the software so i paid for it.
if there are other alternatives then you are free to move on
Depends upon what your view of the new mobile app is. A lot of features are missing.
Can I ask what a hd home run that works with jellyfin is? I have the newer quad hd home run and feel that jellyfin is essentially unusable with it. My wife likes integrated plex, but on jellyfin I find my Apple TV will rarely even start the tuner stream. Experience has been poor.
Also, I do factor in cost of guide data for what I’m paying plex, so it’s a good deal just for the live TV and DVR.
@Jmanko16 I don’t have a Apple TV but I have two HDHR’s, an Extend & a Quatro, running with Jellyfin and Plex (Windows based Server) and the only issue I’ve ever had was the currently known one with Schedules Direct (used for the guide data) and SD-JSON seeing JF requests as DDOS and have been annoying (but there is a workaround that seems to have fixed the issue with me anyway) What issues are you having?
I haven’t been able to reliably get guide data to update, and I have had issues with Swiftfin app starting playback. If a channel has been recording and I want to start it just crashes the app. This happens across iOS and iPad, but we mainly use it on Apple TV and not useable. Infuse doesn’t support tv playback.
Considering just doing recording and then Swiftfin for completed recording and the HDhomerun app for live stream.
Hi, I have three users (including myself) in my Plex Home and I run my server from a remote location, so with the new changes I’ll no longer be able to stream without Plex Pass.
Their FAQ website doesn’t mention anything about it, so I was wondering if anyone here has more info. If I purchase the Remote Watch Pass on my (Home Admin) account, will all other Managed Accounts in my Plex Home have access to its features? This is how Plex Pass currently works (or at least it did the last time I used it) so I assume the same will happen with Remote Watch Pass?
Nope, only your account.
Managed Accounts don’t exist outside of the Home Admin Account. Managed Accounts are consider to have the same rights as the Plex User (the Home Admin) that they sit under. If the Home Admin has a Remote Watch Pass then so will the managed users.
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This is correct. Managed Users are pretty much just a sub-account of the main, and get all features that the main account.
A similar situation happens with whole users invited into a “Plex Home”. These users have their own account email/password, but become fairly integrated with the account of the Home they belong to now, even to the point of being able to quick-swap to another person’s account entirely on login. They also gain all benefits of a Plex-Pass account, without having to own one themselves. The only limit is you can only be in one Plex Home at once, and there is a bit of danger in that you must ABSOLUTELY trust the person you invited into the home, because they can take over your own account without knowing your credentials.
I bring this last bit up, because I am unsure which situation the user @dalen uses, Plex Home (they used the term) or Managed Users (also used this term). Either way, a Plex Pass on the base account will help everyone in this situation.
The new remote stream Pass requirement is a sort of hybrid change. Usually, a Plex Pass only benefits the account itself, in that most features of the Pass cannot be used by regular invited users:
- DVR cannot be shared to normal users
- Intro/outro skip isn’t available to regular users.
- Mobile apps still had to be paid for (before the price was removed) for regular users.
This new “remote stream” requirement is one bonus that a Plex Pass can pass off to regular invited users. Any regular user can stream remotely without a plex pass or stream pass if the server owner as a plex pass themselves. It doesn’t mean that being invited to one server that has a pass allows you to stream from every other server in the world, it is a server-by-server basis on whether you can view remotely.
This is all irrelevant however, as @dalen has one of the two situations in which their users get all Plex Pass features anyway.
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Thank you @kesawi and especially @Divideby0 for the lengthy explanation.
To clarify, all of the other members in my Plex Home are Managed Accounts that I’ve created – they’re not separate Plex accounts (with their own credentials).
Hopefully you’re right and purchasing Remote Watch Pass on my base account (this one) will also transfer to my sub-accounts. I used to pay for Plex Pass for years but now I barely use the thing anymore, so this Watch Pass option would be great for only 2€/month.
Thank you once again 
There are some interesting/surprising exceptions to that rule. Though I guess the Sonos exception is maybe moot now. A nice table on Reddit:
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I use Managed Users in my household. I’ve been considering moving over to invite-to-home users so they can make use of Discover and other online sources, but haven’t yet.
So if I am not able to do remote, I will be SURPRISED and ANGRY if I don’t qualify.
Wait… hold the phone… they want to charge people to access MY content? I get the feeling they don’t want customers any longer
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Yep, and i paid for liftetime, but they want to milk my family and friends i share with while hosting from my server → already started setting up jellyfin and will be saying goodbye to plex when it goes into effect. Nothing but greed, and a great way to alienate a loyal fanbase.
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Since you have the Pass, you and your friends and family are fine. Anyone, even cheapskates (and I usually am one) who don’t want to pay anyone a penny, can connect to your server and continue streaming.
This is a gut punch against people that won’t pay Plex anything, and who have friends who are invited who also won’t pay Plex anything.
I will - over and over again - reiterate that I believe this is prompted as an attack against those “premium” servers that sell access to their server to others, which is against Plex TOS. Before, they could have their server/account banned for a TOS violation, only to turn around with a brand new account and be up and running again within seconds.
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Since you have Plex Pass the people invited to your server will be able to use it without any fees. Nothing changes for you or them. Except the awful new apps, haha.
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Quick question, and sorry if it has been asked and answered; If a remote user of mine purchases a Remote Watch Pass and shares his / her Plex credentials with one of their family members, will the “shared” account be able to remote stream without issue? I assume it isn’t tied to an IP but simpy a membership or Pass?
It’s always going to be account based. You can never rely on IP, it can change too easily, and wouldn’t allow you to travel (change from home WiFi to Cellular data).
So if a user has an account, and purchases the remote pass, they can share the login with others (not that good of an idea) and everyone will have it, since they are the same account.
That would be a violation of our Terms of Service!
Snip from that:
*General Plex Solution Grant* . The Plex Solution is made available by Plex, and this TOS provides to you (identified herein as “you” or a “user” or with “your” (as further described below)) a personal (non-commercial), revocable, limited, non-exclusive, nontransferable, and non-sublicensable license to access and use the Plex Solution
Keywords here are you, personal and nontransferable
For the full Terms of Service, look here:
https://www.plex.tv/about/privacy-legal/plex-terms-of-service/
