Subtitles positioning and a 2.40:1 screen

Guys, I saw few old posts with this question but never saw a resolution.

I’ve 2.40:1 screen and use a projector. I run the PMS on a Mac Mini and my player is nVidia Shield.

I can’t see my subtitles since they are positioned below the screen and the only option availibe are “Bottom”, “Middle”, “Top”. Only the "Middle"option would be on the screen but I don’t want it there. Ideally I’d want it at the bottom WITHIN the 2:40:1 screen proportions.

Is there a way to achieve that?

Thanks!!

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If the subtitle is being burned in by PMS, there isn’t a way to move them. However, if the file is being Direct Played and the subtitles are being rendered by the Android app, the subtitles should adjust to the display area.

That makes me wonder … @nebula, do you have a 2.4:1 screen, but the projector is emitting a different signal? Is part of the projection outside of the screen’s area?

The subtitles aren’t burned in. Projector projects 16:9 but the screen is 1:2.40
The projector uses black bars to limit the screen to prevent bleeding. When watching movies in this format the subtitles are half way outside of the movie area and are not visible. Need ability to raise subtitles to fit within the viewing area in the screen.

It’s always working this way. Unless you invest in a anamorphic lens which is $4-8k

There’s this old joke:

I went to the doctor and said “Doctor, it hurts when I do this.”
Doctor: “Well don’t do that, then.”

:stuck_out_tongue:


I actually prefer my subtitles to be outside the image area. But I understand your goal. Have you looked? There may already be a feature request for this that you could vote on.

Subtitle position options:

  1. Bottom of image area
  2. Bottom of display area

Is that right?

Have you compared subtitle positioning with other devices/platforms? Like the Apple TV or Roku?

I believe the ATV already uses “Bottom of image area” when possible. (I know it has other trade-offs.)

Thank you. On ATV Infuse works great and I get to decide how to position subtitles. No Atmos support though. Yes, I need “bottom of an image area”, but on Shield.

Need “adjust to image area”, not “display area”

Your projector is adding the bars on top of Plex so Plex has no idea those are there. There’s no way to automatically adjust for that.

There aren’t controls to incrementally move the subtitles.

The projector is probably 16:9, it isn’t changing anything and isn’t really the problem. Plex must be aware of the black letterboxing area: it’s rendering the subtitles into it.

@Nebula, I did find this existing Feature Suggestions post:

Let us position srt subtitles to bottom of video - #5 by trogle


Consider using PGS subtitles when they’re available. Those would be composited into the image area.

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Volts, you are exactly right!!

What Volts said below is exactly the issues with the Plex player that I am trying to explain to you.
If It’s too hard to auto adjust the subtitles to be displayed within the image of the video, just allow
a user moving the position of subtitles up and down manually, like the Infuse player does:

I mean … you are kinda projecting half of the display into the trash. :slight_smile: :stuck_out_tongue: lol

But I understand wanting subs to be rendered within the image area.

Lol when you watch wide screen movies you don’t use the entire screen even on a tv, so you don’t use the pixels you paid for!!

When I watch 16:9 movies and shows, my projector has lens memory to zoom out and adjust so I see black bars on the side of my Cinemasope screen, but then I use all of the projector’s matrix.

Pixels, schmixels. It’s all about the lumens! Those poor potential lumens, blasted into the void.

(You really just need some anamorphic glasses. Project everything as 1.78:1, let the glasses stretch it out for each person. Simple!)

(Christopher Nolan must annoy you to no end.)

:slight_smile:
I’m not a native speaker and can’t always get everything they say in the movie. Especially in Nolan’s Tenet, no one can here what they are mumbling…

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I meant Nolan’s habit of repeatedly changing the aspect ratio within a movie.

And I agree, even as an English speaker. His affection for mumble-goo dialogue is incomprehensible.

The old player in the Nvidia Shield put the subs at the bottom of the video frame. When they changed player, some have made it known about the issue and suddenly they forgot about how the old player worked. It should be an option. I have the ATV too, so my solution is use that instead if the movie doesn’t have Atmos or DTSX.

Also using a 2.4:1 projection screen and subtitles in PLEX are my biggest problem. Would like to see PLEX add more control over subtitle positioning so that I can get them into the image rather than currently straddling the image and the black bars as they do currently.

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This is a deal breaker for me… where do I pay to have this feature implemented?